Dianabol a waste of time??

[northernknight]

No. They are chemically equal.

You could actually take injectable dbol and drink it and it would be just like taking the pill.

Injectable is always favored over oral administration in terms of effectiveness.

Can I drink Winny?

Lol

Yeap, true.

In last month I first injected Dbol for first three weeks or so then got tired of being pincushion, and moved Dbol oil from original vial to empty rc-bottle (so I didn't have to use needle every time, just used oral syringe to measure it), and began drinking same dose that I had been injecting ED pre-workout.
Only difference I noticed was that effects hit me faster and felt stronger when I used oral administration. Seemed weird at first, but it makes sense since it was absorbed a lot faster orally.
Even though injectable Dbol doesn't have any ester attached to it it's suspended in oil which will slow down absorbion, and this way extending it's active life. Of course the IM administration itself will also give it more extended release, make it smoother, and cause increase in bio availability.

And yes it also did cause pretty nasty PIP (when I combined it with my Sustanon shot, it left me crippled for few days), but the oil used had pretty high mg/ml ratio compared to other Dbol oils I've previously used.

Just my latest experience with Dbol oil.


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[Nelson Montana]

SInce injectable dbol is 17 alpha alkylated it is still hard on the liver. Since you lose the "kick" that the oral has, so there's really no point in injecting it.

 

[northernknight]

SInce injectable dbol is 17 alpha alkylated it is still hard on the liver. Since you lose the "kick" that the oral has, so there's really no point in injecting it.

Yeah, I agree. Not planning to use Dbol oils again in future, unless someone comes up with modified version of it, or version that has ester attached to it.

Benefit from spot injecting was very minimal IME, and sense of well being that's common with Dbol only came along after switch from injections to oral. All effects were much stronger, even though I backed down on the dose a bit from what I was injecting. Sounds controversial, I know, but that's how it went. I responded a lot better to oral administration, and haven't figured out yet my complete thesis on this subject.

In theory liver stress should be slightly reduced compared to oral Dbol, since the first pass is avoided, but not enough to make much difference. Also the injection will end up spending more time in blood circulation, so out come will be just about the same amount stress on liver compared to orals.
Only benefit that injection has is the theoretically longer active life from being absorbed slower, which I described in my previous post, but that comes out from other effects not as addition to them. It's just not worth the extra pinning required. Not to me anyway.

I am not a huge fan of orals, but there are few exceptions, like Dbol and Winny. Two very different AAS, but they both are very effective, and I get along with both of them very well. They both have 17-AA modification, and they both have injectable and oral versions available.
After trying out both options several times with both Dbol and Winny, I have ended up with same result, orals are definitely best method of use for them.
Or to rephrase that;
In my experience orals are far superior versions of them, suit my needs better, and are the best way for me to use them in the most efficient manner.

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[Mh48500]

Yeah, I agree. Not planning to use Dbol oils again in future, unless someone comes up with modified version of it, or version that has ester attached to it.

Benefit from spot injecting was very minimal IME, and sense of well being that's common with Dbol only came along after switch from injections to oral. All effects were much stronger, even though I backed down on the dose a bit from what I was injecting. Sounds controversial, I know, but that's how it went. I responded a lot better to oral administration, and haven't figured out yet my complete thesis on this subject.

In theory liver stress should be slightly reduced compared to oral Dbol, since the first pass is avoided, but not enough to make much difference. Also the injection will end up spending more time in blood circulation, so out come will be just about the same amount stress on liver compared to orals.
Only benefit that injection has is the theoretically longer active life from being absorbed slower, which I described in my previous post, but that comes out from other effects not as addition to them. It's just not worth the extra pinning required. Not to me anyway.

I am not a huge fan of orals, but there are few exceptions, like Dbol and Winny. Two very different AAS, but they both are very effective, and I get along with both of them very well. They both have 17-AA modification, and they both have injectable and oral versions available.
After trying out both options several times with both Dbol and Winny, I have ended up with same result, orals are definitely best method of use for them.
Or to rephrase that;
In my experience orals are far superior versions of them, suit my needs better, and are the best way for me to use them in the most efficient manner.

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Interesting, I was thinking about brewing some injetable Dbol to see if there was any difference between oral and injectable. Thanks for the input.