dextrose and maltodextrin

[tfuray]

isnt part of the whole emediate glycogen consumption to lower cortisol levels to stop breaking down the muscle as soon as possible?

 

[Ghede]

isnt part of the whole emediate glycogen consumption to lower cortisol levels to stop breaking down the muscle as soon as possible?

aye... prevention is better... good PRE workout nutrition, hydration and antioxidant supplementation is a great start.


28.4 grams of prevention is worth 454 grams of cure.

 

[BBBBig Phenom]

thanks fella's

 

[BBBBig Phenom]

OK.... So I cannot figure out how much I need to take after I workout...I weigh 225lbs.

 

[BBBBig Phenom]

so 50gr of all 3, protein, dex. and mal....

 

[vin01]

50gr of pro, split 50g of the other two.. 25gr dex, 25gr malto

 

[BBBBig Phenom]

so 25g of dex. and malto......this is confusing...the other place said 100g of both combined..??


what is the right answer?

 

[pipejockey]

you can buy a 5lb. jug of it by now sports nutrition for like $16
it's 40gs per scoop of 100% maltodextrin. i put it in my pwo shake or any other beverages if i'm slim on calories that day. i recommend blending it though because it gets very thick and sticky. not something you can just stir with a spoon usually.

 

[BBBBig Phenom]

anywhere online?

 

[gjohnson5]

I've have long posted on here to do the following
1. drop calories
2. use mct (like coconut) in replacement for carbs

When the fats you eat run out , your body should be more or less trained to burn your existing body fat

I have no idea why people promote the use of both while cutting. I have never had a good answer to this one why you'd use simple and complex carbs in the same shake while trying to CUT.

Glucose = 100 on the Glaecimic Index
Maltodextrin = 110 (depending on if you can digest it or not)

Dextrose: PURE simple carbs, as pure as you can get unless you get refined glucose syrup.

Maltodextrin: PURE COMPLEX carbs, absolutely 100% complex, long-chain sugars... and i would love to hear from any one of the dextrose fanatics who have tried, not just assumed, but ACTUALLY TRIED not using the dextrose component to hear their opinion on why in the name of all that is Insulin related they are using a simple sugar like this while trying to LOSE FAT!!


Forgive the repost from a response i made to an earlier thread:

Ahhhh... well... i start forest fires with my thoughts on PWO nutrition...

DISCLAIMER: do what works for YOU. try different angles, keep a detailed log, ala Bunnylicious, and reference it to plan the next experiment.

That having been said, I dont do PWO shakes. Ever. I eat whole food. My deal is that i am an insanely easy gainer as far as LBM and my whole life has been about LOSING my fuckups. I have lost between 106-111lbs of fat and added about 14lbs of LBM, and for me the answer is to eat SLOW digesting proteins, not 'high quality proteins' I dont want whey, i want chicken or turkey with some good MCT/EFAs and some good deep complex/fibrous carbs.

The last thing on the planet I need is 'easy to assimilate' proteins. I want those babies to go low and slow, so my body can use them sloooooowwwwly, not jam all that protein into my system as fast as possible to risk storing the spill over as fat...

The majority of the myth of 'QUICK! EAT SOME WHEY AND SIMPLE SUGARS' mantra was based upon studies for Enduance athletes and their needs in regards to glycogen replenishment window after bouts of Extraodinary Depletion involving exercise that lasted for more than 1.5-2 hours or better.

I get flamed for saying it all the time, but i have no need to push PWO shakes of Whey/Dextrose/Maltodextrin on anyone, pretty much ever. For me its about liking to eat my food, not chug it down in 10 seconds in a locker room for fear of not making my mythical protein window time frame. (which is more like 4-24 hours, btw, not 20 minutes.) So, all you 'HURRY UP AND DRINK YOUR PROTEIN' types, flame away, i am used to it...


What it boils down to is: do what works for you, Different strokes for different folks and all that... funny part is, most of the PWO Shakers i know have never tried it any other whey (sorry for the pun, i had too )


In short: you want to lose fat? Its only a tiny part of the equation, but in this effort 2+2=5, sooooo: Make it HARDER for your body to get those calories where they belong, NOT EASIER!!!!


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