dextrose and maltodextrin

[BBBBig Phenom]

I have just read a big article on these 2 products and how important they are for post workout.....

Are they both all carbs...??

and where is the best place to get them..????

I am going to incorperate them in my PW shake....I am going to get real serious about this ...FINALLY..

 

[shivastool]

is there a difference? Higher GI or...?

 

[vin01]

Yeah they both have similar GI's, and are both extremely high. That is the reason for adding them to the PWO shake, they spike your insulin to intake the shake (or so my understanding). Maybe somebody smarter could elaborate.

 

[poysyn]

"maltodextrin is a moderately sweet polysaccharide used as a food additive, unrelated to barley malt. It is produced from corn starch and is usually found as a creamy white hygroscopic powder. Maltodextrin is easily digestible, being absorbed as rapidly as glucose."

and dextrose is glucose

both are needed imo

 

[BBBBig Phenom]

thanks...how much of each...I weight 225lbs.....want to gain some size but lose body fat...around 15lbs...

 

[playmatesky]

HOw about if someone is allergic to milk/whey? HOw would they get this source?

 

[pintoca]

dextrose = glucose
maltodextrine = semi digested corn starch (sounds yucky but think about it this way).

All you need to know, including how much to add to your PWO is here:

http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/magazine03/dextrose.htm
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/magazine/windowofopportunity.htm

 

[Ghede]

Dextrose: PURE simple carbs, as pure as you can get unless you get refined glucose syrup.

Maltodextrin: PURE COMPLEX carbs, absolutely 100% complex, long-chain sugars... and i would love to hear from any one of the dextrose fanatics who have tried, not just assumed, but ACTUALLY TRIED not using the dextrose component to hear their opinion on why in the name of all that is Insulin related they are using a simple sugar like this while trying to LOSE FAT!!


Forgive the repost from a response i made to an earlier thread:

Ahhhh... well... i start forest fires with my thoughts on PWO nutrition...

DISCLAIMER: do what works for YOU. try different angles, keep a detailed log, ala Bunnylicious, and reference it to plan the next experiment.

That having been said, I dont do PWO shakes. Ever. I eat whole food. My deal is that i am an insanely easy gainer as far as LBM and my whole life has been about LOSING my fuckups. I have lost between 106-111lbs of fat and added about 14lbs of LBM, and for me the answer is to eat SLOW digesting proteins, not 'high quality proteins' I dont want whey, i want chicken or turkey with some good MCT/EFAs and some good deep complex/fibrous carbs.

The last thing on the planet I need is 'easy to assimilate' proteins. I want those babies to go low and slow, so my body can use them sloooooowwwwly, not jam all that protein into my system as fast as possible to risk storing the spill over as fat...

The majority of the myth of 'QUICK! EAT SOME WHEY AND SIMPLE SUGARS' mantra was based upon studies for Enduance athletes and their needs in regards to glycogen replenishment window after bouts of Extraodinary Depletion involving exercise that lasted for more than 1.5-2 hours or better.

I get flamed for saying it all the time, but i have no need to push PWO shakes of Whey/Dextrose/Maltodextrin on anyone, pretty much ever. For me its about liking to eat my food, not chug it down in 10 seconds in a locker room for fear of not making my mythical protein window time frame. (which is more like 4-24 hours, btw, not 20 minutes.) So, all you 'HURRY UP AND DRINK YOUR PROTEIN' types, flame away, i am used to it...


What it boils down to is: do what works for you, Different strokes for different folks and all that... funny part is, most of the PWO Shakers i know have never tried it any other whey (sorry for the pun, i had too )


In short: you want to lose fat? Its only a tiny part of the equation, but in this effort 2+2=5, sooooo: Make it HARDER for your body to get those calories where they belong, NOT EASIER!!!!


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[vin01]

... and i would love to hear from any one of the dextrose fanatics who have tried, not just assumed, but ACTUALLY TRIED not using the dextrose component to hear their opinion on why in the name of all that is Insulin related they are using a simple sugar like this while trying to LOSE FAT!!

Ghede, I don't understand? Are you saying those trying to lose fat should cut out the dextrose or keep it? I got lost in your double negatives..

 

[Ghede]

Ghede, I don't understand? Are you saying those trying to lose fat should cut out the dextrose or keep it? I got lost in your double negatives..

My english SUCKS... LMAO!!!


I get flamed for saying this all the time, as i said... it works for many folks, so thats cool, if it works for you: do it.

I just dont subscribe to the whole Insulin spike requirement for PWO protein consumption or glycogen replenishment. Some do, I dont. You have to try both with an open mind and track your results and see what works best for you.