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Detection times for AAS!!!

nautica

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Boldenone Undecyclenate 4-5 months
Clen 4-5 Days
Ephedrin 6-10 Days
Halo 2 months
Proviron 5 weeks
D-Bol 5 weeks
Methamphetamin 6-10 Days
Primo Depot 4-5 weeks
Deca 18 months
Nandrolon Phenylprop 12 months
Anavar 3 weeks
Anadrol 2 months
Winny oral 3 weeks
Winny inj 2 months
Test cyp 3 months
Test enat 3 months
Sustanon 3 months
Test Prop 2-3 weeks
Andriol 1 week
Tremolon Acet 4-5 weeks
Test supspenison No metabolites. t/e should
be back to normal in days.

Factors which influence the detection times
Metabolism
Fluid intake
Tolerance to the drug
Frequency of intake
Duration of intake
Body fat
Potency of drug
Dosage


Feel free to add to the list. If you show something different let us know as well.

Nautica
 
Re: Dbol - 5 weeks??

DeadLiftZ said:
I thoght Dbol clears the system after 24 hours or less?
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The half-life of d-bol is only 4.5 hours, so your t/e ratio will return to normal level relatively quick, but the metabolites of the drug will still remain in your system.

Nautica
 
Good stuff Nautica! I'd say you were right on.

If we could get a "chemist" to give us scientific info. rather than real life experiences ie: myself, who's been tested and passed everytime.

Death on the Field is very knowledgable, but he hasn't posted on elite for a while. I'll see if I can get him to post his info. He's a smart bro. Possible MOD?
 
Thought this may help too.

Drug Half lives

Clen 1.5 days
halo 9-10 hours
anavar 9 hours
anadrol 7-15 hours
susp 2-3 hours
primo 5-7 days
stanazol 9 hours (oral)
arimidex 3 days
dbol 4.5 hours
clomid 5 days

Ester Half-life

formate 1.5 days
acetate 3 days
propionate 4.5 days
phenylprop 4.5 days
butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 10.5 days
caproate 9 days
isocaproate 9 days
heptonoate 10.5 days
enathate 10.5 days
octanoate 12 days
cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days

If this contradicts with what anybody else has let me know and I will correct.

Nautica
 
Great post. Most people know this but I'll throw it out there anyway for someone that might not. If your urine is being tested be sure it's not the first pee of the day.
 
Nautica,
think it is important to point out which test that these values involve.

I may be mistaken but if you get a hair sample type test, it may extend these values out a bit longer.

Just wanted to see if this has any bearing on those times.

Excellent post, karma to ya.
 
Some detection times are not accurate. For example, injected Stanozolol can be detected for up to 6 months after injection.

As for half lives, most of them are completely wrong. Just to bring a few as example...decanoate is 6-7 days, enanthate is 5-6 days, phenylprop is 4.5 days.

One guy wrote wrong info on AE, and others keep reposting it. Of course, it's not crucially important, don't get me wrong...still, some might find the right info useful.
 
Is the trenbolone acetate (fina) testing time accurate? I have drug testing in the fall and would loove to run another cycle sometime this summer!

Thanks
 
AWESOME post bro!!!!!!!! Nautica, i have seen many of your posts and they are all very informing and quite interesting. One thing tho: other than the olympics and drug-tested bodybuilding shows, why would anyone be tested for gear otherwise?
 
very good post Nautica. You help us so much but sorry if I ask you how did you get this informations? They became from test- lab or is your experience.
 
great post bro....Have you been able to start a cycle yet ? or are you still being tested ?
 
panerai said:
Some detection times are not accurate. For example, injected Stanozolol can be detected for up to 6 months after injection.

As for half lives, most of them are completely wrong. Just to bring a few as example...decanoate is 6-7 days, enanthate is 5-6 days, phenylprop is 4.5 days.

One guy wrote wrong info on AE, and others keep reposting it. Of course, it's not crucially important, don't get me wrong...still, some might find the right info useful.
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Thanks for pointing this out panerai. I tried to gather these half lives from several different sources. As I find out different I will change.

As far as the detection times. I feel very confident about them. Most was from articles (I have read over hundreds). I have seen some stating stanozolol to be up to 6 months, but I am not convinced, although it is more unpredictable than it is when taken orally.

nautica
 
Big E 75 said:
Nautica,
think it is important to point out which test that these values involve.

I may be mistaken but if you get a hair sample type test, it may extend these values out a bit longer.

Just wanted to see if this has any bearing on those times.

Excellent post, karma to ya.
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Should have explained. this is for urine testing. You are correct about hair test. I do not have any idea about the detection times for that. Most test are done by urine.

nautica
 
tyguy said:
Is the trenbolone acetate (fina) testing time accurate? I have drug testing in the fall and would loove to run another cycle sometime this summer!

Thanks
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Some reports say up to 5 months. Due to the fast acting nature of fina, I believe 5 weeks should give it plenty of time to clear. Assuming you have relatively low bodyfat.

And as Fonz pointed out in another post. You t/e ratio would return to normal within a few days after your last shot of fna. But be careful because if your ratios is high then they will test for the metabolites, which will still be in your system.

Nautica
 
Jersey Freak said:
AWESOME post bro!!!!!!!! Nautica, i have seen many of your posts and they are all very informing and quite interesting. One thing tho: other than the olympics and drug-tested bodybuilding shows, why would anyone be tested for gear otherwise?
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Should be no reason for testing unless it is related to athletics. The only other reasons would be if you are on probation for the juice or maybe if your employer suspected you were on juice.

Standard drug test do not test for juice, due to cost factor. Standard drug test is $6. Test for juice is a minimum of $125.

Nautica
 
muscleup said:
great post bro....Have you been able to start a cycle yet ? or are you still being tested ?
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Thanks for remembering muscleup. I do not want to get into my personal situation as I am still on probation. But yes I get tested once a month . And no I have not tested postitive.

Nautica
 
manolo said:
very good post Nautica. You help us so much but sorry if I ask you how did you get this informations? They became from test- lab or is your experience.
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Some are gathered from lab-test, some are personal experience, some are others experience. I will be working over the next 2 years to gather more info and test actual experience. I will be documenting use and lab results on the faster acting metabolites and will have the person using push the limits to see how much can be used and still not test positive.

Nautica
 
Re: Thought this may help too.

nautica said:
Drug Half lives

Clen 1.5 days
halo 9-10 hours
anavar 9 hours
anadrol 7-15 hours
susp 2-3 hours
primo 5-7 days
stanazol 9 hours (oral)
arimidex 3 days
dbol 4.5 hours
clomid 5 days

Ester Half-life

formate 1.5 days
acetate 3 days
propionate 4.5 days
phenylprop 4.5 days
butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 10.5 days
caproate 9 days
isocaproate 9 days
heptonoate 10.5 days
enathate 10.5 days
octanoate 12 days
cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days

If this contradicts with what anybody else has let me know and I will correct.

Nautica
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The ester half-lives are wrong.

In vivo, its 1/2 * ester chain length.

So, enanthate is 5.25 days NOT 10.5 days. The 5-day
enanthate half-life has been proven a zillion times already
in vivo.

Same goes for cypionate: Its 6 days NOT 12.

And undecanoate(same as undenyclate. i.e the
boldenone(EQ) ester. is 8.25 days NOT 16.5 days,
which has been observed in vivo too.

Very easy mistake to make.

Fonz
 
Re: Re: Thought this may help too.

Fonz said:


The ester half-lives are wrong.

In vivo, its 1/2 * ester chain length.

So, enanthate is 5.25 days NOT 10.5 days. The 5-day
enanthate half-life has been proven a zillion times already
in vivo.

Same goes for cypionate: Its 6 days NOT 12.

And undecanoate(same as undenyclate. i.e the
boldenone(EQ) ester. is 8.25 days NOT 16.5 days,
which has been observed in vivo too.

Very easy mistake to make.

Fonz
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Thanks Fonz. I will try to revise the list.
 
One other thing that tested athletes must keep in mind. This is only a guideline. These detection times are not written in stone and everybodies system clears these metabolites at a different time.

This is one reason why so many shot putters get caught. They have so much fat storage where these metabolites are deposited that it is almost impossible to remove all of the metabolites in a reasonable amount of time.

Nautica

And as for the deca remaining in the system for 18 months. I have had them clear in 4 months that I know of. But I was relatively lean and I diluted my urine.
 
Nautica,
Great post I have what may be a stupid question. You post that winny orals are undetectable after 3 weeks and the injectible is undetectable after 2 months. If I drink my winny will it be gone in 3 weeks. I am concerned about passing tests.

Thanks
Axe
 
Axe said:
Nautica,
Great post I have what may be a stupid question. You post that winny orals are undetectable after 3 weeks and the injectible is undetectable after 2 months. If I drink my winny will it be gone in 3 weeks. I am concerned about passing tests.

Thanks
Axe
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According to what I have seen, yes. I would feel safer with anavar though.

Nautica
 
Nautica lets just say I'm about the size of a shotputter, question. I've read somwhere, and tried to find it but can't, that dnp will help clear metabolites faster from its effects. Do you have any thoughts on this? Thanks.
 
BigDog60 said:
Nautica lets just say I'm about the size of a shotputter, question. I've read somwhere, and tried to find it but can't, that dnp will help clear metabolites faster from its effects. Do you have any thoughts on this? Thanks.
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You may have seen that from one of my earlier post. Anything that will increase the metabolism, should in theory help clear metabolites. I will be putting this theory to the test over the next couple of months.

Nautica

If you are that big, I would stick with anabolics that do not leave metabolites, such as test suspension.
 
Axe said:
Nautica,
Great post I have what may be a stupid question. You post that winny orals are undetectable after 3 weeks and the injectible is undetectable after 2 months. If I drink my winny will it be gone in 3 weeks. I am concerned about passing tests.

Thanks
Axe
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It depends on who does the testing - search Panerai's or my posts as we discussed this in length sometime ago (late 2001 I think). Anyway, the info on winny related mainly to Olympic testing not NCAA so I wouldn't be too worried but anything is possible as no one likes to provide much info on the tests they give.
 
Great post! Karma to you bro :D
This should be a sticky note for new guys like me.

Can a test for AS be run on hair folicals too? I heard of companies drug testing employees prior to hiring them and that some of these companies are testing strands of hair instead of urine since it alledgedly shows the drugs for a longer period of time. Keep in mind, I was told that they mainly test for cocaine, acid, MJ ect.

Regards,
Aikido
 
They are looking for standard drugs not anabolics (although you could test for them using hair). Generally 1.5" = 3 months and if not from head than somewhere else that grows even slower.
 
nautica said:
One other thing that tested athletes must keep in mind. This is only a guideline. These detection times are not written in stone and everybodies system clears these metabolites at a different time.

This is one reason why so many shot putters get caught. They have so much fat storage where these metabolites are deposited that it is almost impossible to remove all of the metabolites in a reasonable amount of time.

Nautica

And as for the deca remaining in the system for 18 months. I have had them clear in 4 months that I know of. But I was relatively lean and I diluted my urine.
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Very nice post bro,but like you said this is only a guide,every person is diferents,this happ.. too with any drugs like marihuana-cocaine ect.. everything depends how the person metabolites.
 
Nautica,
I remember ou telling us about your unfortunate predicament. I was thinking, (propbably too late to do this now but) If deca can test for like 18 months, cant you just take deca and tell him you were taking it before you were put on probation? Could give you a reason to take deca the whole time you are on probation!
 
justwannagetsum said:
Nautica,
I remember ou telling us about your unfortunate predicament. I was thinking, (propbably too late to do this now but) If deca can test for like 18 months, cant you just take deca and tell him you were taking it before you were put on probation? Could give you a reason to take deca the whole time you are on probation!
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Yeah, I thought of that but. I was charge for having possesion in august of 1999. and part of my probation states that I stay away from anabolics, even with a docs script I would have to get permission from my probby.

Nautica
 
I stand corrected for the detection time of Ephed. I have had several people tell me 4-5 days instead of the 6-10. I agree with the 4-5 days but I was erring on the side of caution due to the fact that I have seen some studies that show up to 10 days.

Nautica
 
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but is the detectability issue influenced by the form of the drug? Like if you took an oral winny versus an injectable, that kind of thing.

(I'm new at this)

But very interesting thread.

Wyst
 
wyst said:
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but is the detectability issue influenced by the form of the drug? Like if you took an oral winny versus an injectable, that kind of thing.

(I'm new at this)

But very interesting thread.

Wyst
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Yes, injectables are in your system longer.

The quickest is if you snort it. Gets in and gets out.

Nautica
 
QUESTION:

What is the most test suspension one could take the day of a test, yet still fall under the 6:1 ratio?
 
nautica,
i've decided to run fina alone.
i will use arimidex and ala throughout.

any positive or negative suggestions?
 
Nautica hasn't been around in awhile, too bad for us, he was the fuckin guru when it came to this kind of thing.
 
genarr3 said:
Nautica hasn't been around in awhile, too bad for us, he was the fuckin guru when it came to this kind of thing.
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no doubt.
every time i need this stuff, i just search under his name
 
Careful where you post this, some of the guys who compete in tested sports and don't use AS will crawl up your ass an explode if they think you are cheating in "natural" events.
 
I'm quite new to this board but find such threads very interesting.

Could please someone old enough in here post here or email me nautica's "secrets" he's talking about above ?

my email is [email protected]

thanks.
 
I'm quite new to this board but find such threads very interesting.

Could please someone old enough in here post here or email me nautica's "secrets" he's talking about above ?

my email is [email protected]

thanks.
 
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