Designer cycle help

[Duncan747]

Hi,

I am keen to go for my second cycle soon. I have read numerous articles, posts and even a book but still not sure how to hang everything together. The sample cycles i have read all seem to have one or other drawback for me. I would really appreciate some help in thinking my cycle through.

My stats are 42 years old, 74 kg, 10% body fat, exercise 10 hours per week (gym, cycling, yoga) and eat quite well (5+ meals with high protein and no junk). I am looking for the following

Want 3 to 5 kg of quality weight gain with trade off between weight gain and maintaining or achieving low fat
Avoid acne at any cost - had a breakout in 1st cycle and since done course of accutane
Cost is not an issue
Been on hgh for 4 months and would like to include in cycle
Was thinking of combo of longish acting steroid enanthante or cypionate with anavar and maybe masteron
Not sure of anti estrogen regimen - my supplier has nolvadex and proviron but not arimidex
Not sure of pct regimen

If there are any pro's out there i will even pay to have cycle designed for me.

Thanks
Duncan

 

[dylangemelli]

Hi,

I am keen to go for my second cycle soon. I have read numerous articles, posts and even a book but still not sure how to hang everything together. The sample cycles i have read all seem to have one or other drawback for me. I would really appreciate some help in thinking my cycle through.

My stats are 42 years old, 74 kg, 10% body fat, exercise 10 hours per week (gym, cycling, yoga) and eat quite well (5+ meals with high protein and no junk). I am looking for the following

Want 3 to 5 kg of quality weight gain with trade off between weight gain and maintaining or achieving low fat
Avoid acne at any cost - had a breakout in 1st cycle and since done course of accutane
Cost is not an issue
Been on hgh for 4 months and would like to include in cycle
Was thinking of combo of longish acting steroid enanthante or cypionate with anavar and maybe masteron
Not sure of anti estrogen regimen - my supplier has nolvadex and proviron but not arimidex
Not sure of pct regimen

If there are any pro's out there i will even pay to have cycle designed for me.

Thanks
Duncan

i can definitely help you here bro... i can set you all up... you must understand that nolva nor proviron is going to be able to be used as an ai... i will be incorporating proviron into your cycle but it only has ai properties and does not itself act as one... you are wanting to keep a lower body fat as well, correct?

 

[ELVIS1982]

Listen to Dylan. He knows his shit and always offers great advice.

 

[muscleaddiction]

Listen to Dylan. He knows his shit and always offers great advice.

You are in good hands with Dylan...he helps me all the time

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[kc17]

Run what u had in mind ,keep in mind your diet will dictate must of your results .
1-12 wks test e 500 wk
1-12 wks mast e 400 wk
4-12 wks Proviron 50mg ed
1-8 wks anavar 50 mg ed (optional)

Now work on a good diet atleat 400 g of protein daily . Good luck

 

[Duncan747]

Thanks for everyone's suggestions so far. Will review and come up with a plan

 

[oxymoron]

Not sure how this is gonna shake out as far as compounds but if u do need something like adex its easily bought legitly at many of our board sponsors... look at chemicalneed.com or greatwhitepeptides. com.

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[dylangemelli]

You are in good hands with Dylan...he helps me all the time

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=) thanks brotha!

 

[dylangemelli]

Here's the way I would run it...

1-12 test e 500 mg/wk
1-12 mast e 400-500 mg/wk... i prefer 500
1-12 aromasin or arimidex... aromasin is 12.5 mg EOD and dex is .5 mg EOD
1-12 proviron 50 -75 mg day
7-12 anavar 60 mg day first four weeks then bump to 80 mg last 2 weeks
7-14 hcg 500 iu's wk or hcgenerate

pct
15-18 clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 forma stanzol

 

[Duncan747]

Thanks Dylan. Much appreciated

 

[Duncan747]

I have been trying to integrate all the info i have gotten and revised cycle as follows

Main cycle
1-12 test cypionate 500 mg/wk - couldn't get pure enanthate from my guy
1-12 primobolan enanthanate 300 mg/wk - switched from masteron as read it is less likely to cause acne
1-12 arimidex .5 mg eod
Bridge
8-16 anavar 50 - 60 mg/day - will see how liver handles
pct
30 days after week 12 for 37 days
Day 1 to 7 clomid 2x50mg/day
Day 8 to 37 nolvadex 20mg/day
Day 8 to 26 hcg 500iu/day eod

Any final comments and suggestions would be appreciated. Will be placing order next week.

 

[bonacris]

ditch the nolvadex and get some post cyle/ unleashed combo.. nolva will make you feel like shit, unleashed will make you feel awesome.. clomid dosing is far to high

 

[muscleaddiction]

I have been trying to integrate all the info i have gotten and revised cycle as follows

Main cycle
1-12 test cypionate 500 mg/wk - couldn't get pure enanthate from my guy
1-12 primobolan enanthanate 300 mg/wk - switched from masteron as read it is less likely to cause acne
1-12 arimidex .5 mg eod
Bridge
8-16 anavar 50 - 60 mg/day - will see how liver handles
pct
30 days after week 12 for 37 days
Day 1 to 7 clomid 2x50mg/day
Day 8 to 37 nolvadex 20mg/day
Day 8 to 26 hcg 500iu/day eod

Any final comments and suggestions would be appreciated. Will be placing order next week.

What is this and what are you bridging?

So you are starting your PCT 4 weeks after your last pin? I can see running the Var 2 weeks past last pin and then starting PCT (which is what I will be doing), but not waiting 4 weeks bro.

I would start PCT on week 15, and run Var last 6 weeks and up to PCT (week 9-14...6 weeks total) and still wondering why you are calling it a bridge??

You also want to start your HCG earlier to kickstart your PCT, and what are you doing during cycle for support and minimizing shutdown? You are going to rely on your PCT to bring your nuts back from the dead??

IMO...this still needs some work bro.

 

[Duncan747]

Thanks? My pct timing and regimen is from a trusted source on another forum. I have read that pct should start 3 x half life after last shot of longest acting ester ( in my case the test cyp at 12 * 3 days). Also read that hcg in cycle only advised for cycles > 12 weeks - which i guess with what i called 'bridge' may qualify and for doses > 1000 mg per week which applies in week 8 to 12 for me. What would you advise ito of hcg pre pct?

 

[muscleaddiction]

Thanks? My pct timing and regimen is from a trusted source on another forum. I have read that pct should start 3 x half life after last shot of longest acting ester ( in my case the test cyp at 12 * 3 days). Also read that hcg in cycle only advised for cycles > 12 weeks - which i guess with what i called 'bridge' may qualify and for doses > 1000 mg per week which applies in week 8 to 12 for me. What would you advise ito of hcg pre pct?

Main cycle:

1-12 Test Cypionate 500 mg/wk (pinned 2x EW, 250mg Sun & Thur)
1-12 Primobolan Enanthanate 300 mg/wk (pinned 2x EW, 150mg OR 100mg EOD)
1-12 Arimidex .5 mg eod
5-12 HCGenerate (5 caps ED)
1-12 N2 Guard (7 caps ED)
9-14 Forged Liver (extra liver support during oral)
9-14 Anavar 60 mg/day (you should be fine)

PCT:

13-18 Unleashed (6 caps ED 1st week, 3 caps ED last 5 weeks...spread out through day)
13-18 Post Cycle (6 caps ED 1st week, 3 caps ED last 5 weeks...spread out through day)
13-20 Forma Stanzol (5 pumps morn & even first 4 weeks, 3 pumps morn & even last 2 weeks)
15-18 Clomid 50/50/25/25

As recommended above...ditch the Nolva. The layout above would be sufficient for on cycle support which you were lacking, and PCT is designed to actually have you recover...HCGenerate on cycle will minimize shutdown, and make your PCT more effective and successful.

If needed, HCG can be ran weeks 12-14 @ 500iu EOD, but HCGenerate would be sufficient IMO for this cycle.

 

[Duncan747]

Thanks. Appreciate your input. Will drop anavar to 6 weeks and add liver support. Unfortunately, i live in south africa and checked various sources and forums but not able to get unleashed, post cycle combo locally so guess i am stuck with hcg, nolva, clomid pct? This may be a dumb question but could i continue with arimidex in place of nolvadex? Also, hcgenerate sells for $250 on only local import site i could find it on. Doesn't seem right as i have seen in us for much less. Could i start the hcg in cycle instead?

 

[RADAR]

Thanks. Appreciate your input. Will drop anavar to 6 weeks and add liver support. Unfortunately, i live in south africa and checked various sources and forums but not able to get unleashed, post cycle combo locally so guess i am stuck with hcg, nolva, clomid pct? This may be a dumb question but could i continue with arimidex in place of nolvadex? Also, hcgenerate sells for $250 on only local import site i could find it on. Doesn't seem right as i have seen in us for much less. Could i start the hcg in cycle instead?

Yes, start HCG in the cycle around wk 5 at 250ius twice weekly up until PCT.

If current PCT pct is unavailable
You can use the following:

Aspartic Acis
Tribulis Terrestris
ZMA
6-Bromo
Trans Reveresatrol

 

[muscleaddiction]

Yes, start HCG in the cycle around wk 5 at 250ius twive weekly up until PCT.

If current PCT pct is unavailable
You can use the following:

Aspartic Acis
Tribulis Terrestris
ZMA
6-Bromo
Trans Reveresatrol

^^^ this, thanks Radar for your input here...yeah, $250 for a bottle of HCGenerate is absurd!

 

[RacaTwister]

Thanks. Appreciate your input. Will drop anavar to 6 weeks and add liver support. Unfortunately, i live in south africa and checked various sources and forums but not able to get unleashed, post cycle combo locally so guess i am stuck with hcg, nolva, clomid pct? This may be a dumb question but could i continue with arimidex in place of nolvadex? Also, hcgenerate sells for $250 on only local import site i could find it on. Doesn't seem right as i have seen in us for much less. Could i start the hcg in cycle instead?

Can't you just buy Unleashed/post cycle from NTBM?? They ship worldwide right?

 

[Duncan747]

Will check it out. Is the product legal without prescription? Dont want to risk customs

 

[RacaTwister]

Will check it out. Is the product legal without prescription? Dont want to risk customs

I ing hope so! I'm waiting for a batch to arrive to Sweden. If it comes through to here I'm sure it'll come through to you. Swedish Auth are tough on these kinds of things.