I agree that running Hcg during this cycle would definately be beneficial. However, do these products shut you down as much as actual gear? I'm pretty sure the Beastdrol shuts you down pretty hard even at four weeks, "I'm referring to another guy who ran beastrol and his t levels ended up being around 42 afterwards!!!". Eric, do you have an research or info into how much the 19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene- 3,17 dione chemical shuts you down and also Dermacrine? I would think these compounds wouldnt be THAT bad at shutting you down specifically the Dermacrine. I currently running a 15 weeker with 500mg of test along with 90mgs of Tren-tfo for four weeks and Dermacrine for the last four weeks. Also running Hcg at 250ius twice weekly and .50mgs dex e3days. I added these compounds because I thought they'd be beneficial but not so harsh on my hpta. Any help would be appreciated bro. Also, do you think I should do some sort of a kickstart with the hcg maybe the first week or two right before pct. Thanks again.