Dermacrine - The New Legal PCT Product - KICKS ASS!

[fbodyguy02]

Fbodyguy,

It’s the metabolites or epi-test/test ratio that determines a positive UA for steroids 3 months post use. Any testosterone from the Test Enanthate would have been long gone after 35 days. In fact levels are back to base-line after 15 days from a test enanthate shot. I have no doubt that his super high test levels where a result of the hCG used up until the saliva test.

-Pp

Thanks for the explanation. So from what your said above, are you implying that both saliva tests were affected by the HCG? (Thus making boths tests inaccurate as far as TEST values)

 

[Primordial Performance]

Thanks for the explanation. So from what your said above, are you implying that both saliva tests were affected by the HCG? (Thus making boths tests inaccurate as far as TEST values)

Ill admit, the test is less than ideal.

But the hCG wouldn’t explain the test levels for the second test. Had he not used the derma he probably would have been in the 120-140 normal range…. Rather than the super-physiological 300 range.

-Pp

 

[freakydominator]

my question was why his estrogen was lower and test higher when taking HCG and estrogen higher and test lower when taking dermacrine?

the results should be the opposite, at least ratio wise.

 

[fbodyguy02]

Ill admit, the test is less than ideal.

But the hCG wouldn’t explain the test levels for the second test. Had he not used the derma he probably would have been in the 120-140 normal range…. Rather than the super-physiological 300 range.

-Pp

Gotcha! Thanks again for making this clear.

 

[ZGzaZ]

Good to see some results from testing back.

 

[Primordial Performance]

my question was why his estrogen was lower and test higher when taking HCG and estrogen higher and test lower when taking dermacrine?

the results should be the opposite, at least ratio wise.

Yes, mm was one of the few users that could have benefited from additional AI support. Still, the derma caused a VERY effective preservation of test levels.

Mm, I have a question for you…

Did you use any AI’s during the cycle or hCG usage? Its possible that an AI such as adex or letrozol could have caused aromatase rebound…

Also, where you using any other supps with the Derma?

-Pp

 

[VooDooChild]

Because who is going to draw the blood and send it as a biohazard through the mail? I can and am doing blood testing on myself since I own a company that can legally collect blood and tissues for lab testing and I have contracts with Labcorp, Quest, Medtox, etc. There are other reasons as well but that is the main one.

There is no need to send it through the mail, when Im sure there is a blood testing center in your area/state. Quests are all over the place..

 

[needtogetaas]

I have read through these threads and the only 2 people who dont appear to be reps or testers, moderators or advertisers, big rupe and jack angel, have had no results.

and that bloodwork is not exactly good. your estrogen went up and your test went down.

well here is your big rupe thread were he stats that derma is doing all that it said it would for him....so I think you can pull your foot out of your mouth now.lmao
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537973&highlight=Dermacrine

 

[mm107]

Yes, mm was one of the few users that could have benefited from additional AI support. Still, the derma caused a VERY effective preservation of test levels.

Mm, I have a question for you…

Did you use any AI’s during the cycle or hCG usage? Its possible that an AI such as adex or letrozol could have caused aromatase rebound…

Also, where you using any other supps with the Derma?

-Pp

Hey PP, i ran AIFM during my cycle + and during my HCG cycle afterwards. When i started the Dermacrine, i stoped using the AIFM.

only other supps while on dermacrine was creatine EE,

my estrogen could have been high simple because my testosterone was high and it was compensating using the body's mechinism to balance them out?

 

[ZGzaZ]

Hey PP, i ran AIFM during my cycle + and during my HCG cycle afterwards. When i started the Dermacrine, i stoped using the AIFM.

only other supps while on dermacrine was creatine EE,

my estrogen could have been high simple because my testosterone was high and it was compensating using the body's mechinism to balance them out?

A strong possibility.