Dermacrine - The New Legal PCT Product - KICKS ASS!

[medical]

I have read through these threads and the only 2 people who dont appear to be reps or testers, moderators or advertisers, big rupe and jack angel, have had no results.

and that bloodwork is not exactly good. your estrogen went up and your test went down.

I have done and am continuing to do personal and independent testing. After a bunch of debating about different types of testing and scientific controls I withdrew my tests from the public forum.
I will say that Dermacrine shows measurable, consistant elevations in free test and DHEA on a short term basis. I've only been testing for 3 weeks so I can't vouch for long term or sustained benefit.
The bottom line is you are an experiment of one and have probably blown alot of $ on much less useful supps over the years. If it works for you then it is good. Just like AIFM.....I don't need any lab results to tell me that it keeps me dry and less estrogenic. It also gives me a rash and has to be interspersed with Aromasin. I expect Dermacrine will be the same....a useful part of my arsenal that is only a PART of the equation....Your mileage may/will vary but if you have been at this very long the $70 for a bottle is chump change in the grand scheme. As I've said before......a product either makes the majority of users FEEL BETTER or it fails no matter what lab work says.

 

[fbodyguy02]

Here is my situation:

Last cycle: (i wanted 500, but was overdosing the syringe)
600mg/Test E / Week 8 weeks

PCT was HCG @ 500 i.u day for 14 Days after last shot.

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WHEN I SENT IN MY SALIVA TESTING, I TOOK MY HCG(LAST SHOT) AND THEN DID MY SALIVA, NOT REALIZING THE HCG WILL CAUSE MY SALIVA TO SHOW HIGH LEVELS OF TESTOSTERONE
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My Levels while on my last shot of HCG was:
Estrone: 4.9
Testosterone: 444
DHEA: 32.4

Now i finished up my bottle of Dermacrine, i was asked not to post my results untill i had everything finished, which i waited....

Thanks for sharing your results. Can you please clarify how long after your last shot of Test E and HCG that you got re-tested?

I only ask because I would imagine that your test levels would still be high since Test E is a long acting ester, could this have contributed to your high Test Level?

 

[mm107]

Thanks for sharing your results. Can you please clarify how long after your last shot of Test E and HCG that you got re-tested?

I only ask because I would imagine that your test levels would still be high since Test E is a long acting ester, could this have contributed to your high Test Level?

Sure my last Shot of Test E: Jan 26

Last Shot of HCG: February 9, 2007

First Saliva Test: Feb 9, 2007 - Mailed out Saliva Testing They recieved it and Processed it by Feb 12

Second Saliva Test: March 2, 2007

So the time from Jan 26 to March 2 = 35 Days

The normal 'clearance' time with test e is around 14 days.....

 

[bobbie]

I wonder when the docs will b using this instead of HCG, clomid, seein as it has no side affects. Its just that anything that works & works well is on prescription & has side affects & is illegal to have. Every drug that u need a prescription for that works has side affects one way or another. So for me if it is legal & no sides affects it does not work & if it does y r the docs not using it for HRT & other treatment's

 

[fbodyguy02]

Sure my last Shot of Test E: Jan 26

Last Shot of HCG: February 9, 2007

First Saliva Test: Feb 9, 2007 - Mailed out Saliva Testing They recieved it and Processed it by Feb 12

Second Saliva Test: March 2, 2007

So the time from Jan 26 to March 2 = 35 Days

The normal 'clearance' time with test e is around 14 days.....

Thanks for the quick reply.

OK so from what I have read on a few websites regarding Test E, the consensus is:

Half Life:
TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE 10.5 days

Detection Time:
TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE 3 MONTHS

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If Test E is detectable for upto 3 months, I think it is safe to assume that only after 35 days, you still had a good amount of Test E in your system, thus bumping up your Test values?

Bump for others thoughts/opinions.....

 

[needtogetaas]

I wonder when the docs will b using this instead of HCG, clomid, seein as it has no side affects. Its just that anything that works & works well is on prescription & has side affects & is illegal to have. Every drug that u need a prescription for that works has side affects one way or another. So for me if it is legal & no sides affects it does not work & if it does y r the docs not using it for HRT & other treatment's

lets face it this stuff will not be legal for ever.

 

[bobbie]

lets face it this stuff will not be legal for ever.

Then thats when i will b hooked no prob

 

[needtogetaas]

I have read through these threads and the only 2 people who dont appear to be reps or testers, moderators or advertisers, big rupe and jack angel, have had no results.

and that bloodwork is not exactly good. your estrogen went up and your test went down.

I have to go to the gym then class but when I get back i will have a list of names of people that have paid for it or were a tester that have no affiliation
with the company at all that have tried itand loved it.....the list is much higher then 2 I can tell you that

 

[Primordial Performance]

Voodoochild,

Blood testing would have been time & cost prohibitive, as medical explained. Saliva testing is a way more conveinient method of hormone testing.

Freakydominator,

Both jack angel and big rupe have been on the product for less than 2 weeks. I suspect results will be more pronounced as the days pass. However, there are others who have actually bought the product and have posted good results… care to pull these up needto ? ;-)

Fbodyguy,

It’s the metabolites or epi-test/test ratio that determines a positive UA for steroids 3 months post use. Any testosterone from the Test Enanthate would have been long gone after 35 days. In fact levels are back to base-line after 15 days from a test enanthate shot. I have no doubt that his super high test levels where a result of the hCG used up until the saliva test.

Bobbie,

Docs ARE using transdermal DHEA in a clinical setting for many HRT applications. The FDA has been trying to ban DHEA for years. In fact DHEA was banned for a period in the 80’s I believe, and then was reinstated as dietary supplement after a couple years of legal battle.

Dermacrine can have side-effects like any other hormonal drug, they are just minimized due to the natural AI’s in the formula, and balance of preg/DHEA. Still, I imagine that if derma was used for many, many months it would eventually have a suppressive effect on hormone production. This is why we advocate a 4 week cycling period.

-Pp

 

[bobbie]

Voodoochild,

Blood testing would have been time & cost prohibitive, as medical explained. Saliva testing is a way more conveinient method of hormone testing.

Freakydominator,

Both jack angel and big rupe have been on the product for less than 2 weeks. I suspect results will be more pronounced as the days pass. However, there are others who have actually bought the product and have posted good results… care to pull these up needto ? ;-)

Fbodyguy,

It’s the metabolites or epi-test/test ratio that determines a positive UA for steroids 3 months post use. Any testosterone from the Test Enanthate would have been long gone after 35 days. In fact levels are back to base-line after 15 days from a test enanthate shot. I have no doubt that his super high test levels where a result of the hCG used up until the saliva test.

Bobbie,

Docs ARE using transdermal DHEA in a clinical setting for many HRT applications. The FDA has been trying to ban DHEA for years. In fact DHEA was banned for a period in the 80’s I believe, and then was reinstated as dietary supplement after a couple years of legal battle.

Dermacrine can have side-effects like any other hormonal drug, they are just minimized due to the natural AI’s in the formula, and balance of preg/DHEA. Still, I imagine that if derma was used for many, many months it would eventually have a suppressive effect on hormone production. This is why we advocate a 4 week cycling period.

-Pp

For me its still just a legal Dietary Supplement. Natural AI"s says it all