Dermacrine as my PCT log thus far

[SpyWizard]

Dermacrine

I'm just finishing a test/var/tbol cycle now...
10 weeks
500mg test e
1-4 50mg tbol
4-10 50mg var

1-current 3iu GH 5/2 split

I was one of the 1st to rave about Omega's Amplify02, and still do, love that stuff.. consuming 8-10caps 45 minutes pre workout no consumption on non workout days.
Will stop using it during this 1st week to ensure effects and sides from Dermacrine.

age 46
5'9"
210
bf 14%


3/13/2007 started Dermacrine 16 days after last test e injection

Saliva test taken 8:00 am
40 pumps upper body, shoulders, upper arms
Sense of wellbeing that lasted until 3pm
Serious energy crash 4:30 took a nap

3/14/2007

40 pumps upper body, shoulders upper arms, neck
Sense of wellbeing
Took thermogenic am and pm
No energy crash

3/15

Holy mother of all morning wood… standing tall and looking good..
40 pumps upper body 12:00
Felt really good all day, and into the evening
No crash

3/17
Chased and caught the wife 3 times this weekend, she insists that I either find something that will boost her libido this much, or well, she didn’t really give me any other choice.. It’s been a long long time since I felt this amorous and it’s not her, it’s more me, and getting older and not recovering from cycles enough.. but hey, it’s working now..


3/18
Wife came up prego today, results were positive 2 days in a row… we’ve been trying for 6 yrs to get pregnant, so it just seems like the timing is weird.. in a good way

3/19
Seems that if I delay putting on the product later in the morning, the effects last me longer, or rather I don’t seem to have an energy crash later in the day, I am going to start messing with my diet more to see if that has an effect..
Sleep is very good, sound and 7-9 hours normally, lots of dreams and I am waking up 2x per night to urinate.
Did I mention that I am horny all the time??

Gym has been ok, I normally use Amplify 02 for my pre workout and I have been avoiding using it during this 1st week, not as much energy, and no strength loss, but not increasing weights or reps… that’s kind of weird, as in I seem to be stagnant, but at least I am not falling off in my strength like I have in the past doing pct.

Motivation is good, not great… weird thing I noticed today, I seem to be vascular, more so than when I finished the cycle, I will continue to observe or see if I get any sides that I normally get while in pct..

Nipples are fine, a little puffy, but no big deal, not tender so there doesn’t seem to be any rebound effect from too much estrogen.

Ok, did my normal back routine tonight, broke down and added back into the mix my normal 10 caps of Amplify 02… after being off it for 1 week I have to say I missed it allot. Intense routine back/bi with leg extensions and calves thrown in to keep me fresh.

Observation thus far, I like the product allot, testicle size is increasing, during sex my testicles would migrate into my body cavity (remember I was finishing a cycle), this weekend, they no longer fit anymore..

 

[SpyWizard]

3/20

Strength is very much back to the getting stronger phase, the amplify 02 as my pre workout has me focused, and the recovery time has dropped way down after 1 week..

One issue that i will continue to monitor is the possibility of over training, fast recovery is not always a good thing.. I am going to be pushing it very hard these next 6 weeks (no it's not spring break) sports season is upon us..

 

[Stryker1992]

I am going to try the derma post cycle myself. I am coming off test 5oo mg's per week!

My ballz are marbles!!!

 

[aceofspades]

I am going to try the derma post cycle myself. I am coming off test 5oo mg's per week!

My ballz are marbles!!!

I would use HCG before coming off cycle and get your nuts back to size. Derma alone will not do it.

Great log so far!

 

[needtogetaas]

I am going to try the derma post cycle myself. I am coming off test 5oo mg's per week!

My ballz are marbles!!!

hcg during the last few weeks of cycle will get them nuts back bro well derma will do every thing else you need for pct.

 

[needtogetaas]

Dermacrine

I'm just finishing a test/var/tbol cycle now...
10 weeks
500mg test e
1-4 50mg tbol
4-10 50mg var

1-current 3iu GH 5/2 split

I was one of the 1st to rave about Omega's Amplify02, and still do, love that stuff.. consuming 8-10caps 45 minutes pre workout no consumption on non workout days.
Will stop using it during this 1st week to ensure effects and sides from Dermacrine.

age 46
5'9"
210
bf 14%


3/13/2007 started Dermacrine 16 days after last test e injection

Saliva test taken 8:00 am
40 pumps upper body, shoulders, upper arms
Sense of wellbeing that lasted until 3pm
Serious energy crash 4:30 took a nap

3/14/2007

40 pumps upper body, shoulders upper arms, neck
Sense of wellbeing
Took thermogenic am and pm
No energy crash

3/15

Holy mother of all morning wood… standing tall and looking good..
40 pumps upper body 12:00
Felt really good all day, and into the evening
No crash

3/17
Chased and caught the wife 3 times this weekend, she insists that I either find something that will boost her libido this much, or well, she didn’t really give me any other choice.. It’s been a long long time since I felt this amorous and it’s not her, it’s more me, and getting older and not recovering from cycles enough.. but hey, it’s working now..


3/18
Wife came up prego today, results were positive 2 days in a row… we’ve been trying for 6 yrs to get pregnant, so it just seems like the timing is weird.. in a good way

3/19
Seems that if I delay putting on the product later in the morning, the effects last me longer, or rather I don’t seem to have an energy crash later in the day, I am going to start messing with my diet more to see if that has an effect..
Sleep is very good, sound and 7-9 hours normally, lots of dreams and I am waking up 2x per night to urinate.
Did I mention that I am horny all the time??

Gym has been ok, I normally use Amplify 02 for my pre workout and I have been avoiding using it during this 1st week, not as much energy, and no strength loss, but not increasing weights or reps… that’s kind of weird, as in I seem to be stagnant, but at least I am not falling off in my strength like I have in the past doing pct.

Motivation is good, not great… weird thing I noticed today, I seem to be vascular, more so than when I finished the cycle, I will continue to observe or see if I get any sides that I normally get while in pct..

Nipples are fine, a little puffy, but no big deal, not tender so there doesn’t seem to be any rebound effect from too much estrogen.

Ok, did my normal back routine tonight, broke down and added back into the mix my normal 10 caps of Amplify 02… after being off it for 1 week I have to say I missed it allot. Intense routine back/bi with leg extensions and calves thrown in to keep me fresh.

Observation thus far, I like the product allot, testicle size is increasing, during sex my testicles would migrate into my body cavity (remember I was finishing a cycle), this weekend, they no longer fit anymore..

nice.

 

[tin2]

Shit i was just gonna order some to canada, but my province doesnt show up.. Alberta wtf.? is this the only place that cant get it ?

 

[SpyWizard]

Note, i did not run HCG during the cycle, my order didn't make it to the USA, i did run MyogenX that did increase Testicle size and Libedo..... stopped this product 2 weeks before i began this test run..

 

[needtogetaas]

Shit i was just gonna order some to canada, but my province doesnt show up.. Alberta wtf.? is this the only place that cant get it ?

when derma sustain comes out in a week or two we will be able to ship to you.

 

[Stryker1992]

hcg during the last few weeks of cycle will get them nuts back bro well derma will do every thing else you need for pct.

Yah bro, I know! I love hcg. But i am excited to see about this derma.

 

[needtogetaas]

Yah bro, I know! I love hcg. But i am excited to see about this derma.

your going to be one of the first to try the new derma sustain right....cant wait to here what you have to say to.I know derma boast is the shit and if the new derma is any thing like it it will be great to.one thing is for shore it will keep you from shutting down and get all your levels back to normal

 

[Stryker1992]

your going to be one of the first to try the new derma sustain right....cant wait to here what you have to say to.I know derma boast is the shit and if the new derma is any thing like it it will be great to.one thing is for shore it will keep you from shutting down and get all your levels back to normal

Yah bro, the sustain is what I am going to be a research moneky for!

 

[needtogetaas]

Yah bro, the sustain is what I am going to be a research moneky for!

 

[SpyWizard]

3/21

Shoulders and light chest today...

Holy crap, the strength gains... I did 75 lb db for 20 reps on the 3rd set.. 60% incline press (hits more of the front shoulder/delts and chest) 5th exercise..

My normal max weight for this exercise is 55 for 20 in this routine..

I am going to continue experimenting with additional weight in my normal routines and will update..

 

[SpyWizard]

3/22

Sitting here this morning, I just noticed I am bouncing my legs… now that might not seem like anything to you all, but it is something I am known for throughout my family as it is just nervous energy.. I have not eaten breakfast yet, and I can’t stop the leg dance.. Test hormone levels are at their highest 1st thing in the morning.. hmmmm

 

[ZGzaZ]

3/22

Sitting here this morning, I just noticed I am bouncing my legs… now that might not seem like anything to you all, but it is something I am known for throughout my family as it is just nervous energy.. I have not eaten breakfast yet, and I can’t stop the leg dance.. Test hormone levels are at their highest 1st thing in the morning.. hmmmm

awesome, its kicking in strong!

 

[SpyWizard]

3/27/07

Strength is up across the board, every exercise, recovery is fast as in it feels like I can work legs eod if I wanted..
I’ve been sick the past 3 days… I usually get sick 1x per year normally in Jan or feb, I develop Bronchitis, sinus infection, severe sore throat, that fills my lungs, then an infection, normally recover in 3-4 weeks.

I continued use of Dermacrine, 40 pumps in the am after a shower… The strange thing that has been noted, is the 1st symptom that was noted was the congestion in the chest, (this has never happened before) sinus and sore throat has not developed, just the chest problems. Wen to the doc today, and sure enough it is Severe Infectious Bronchitis, she prescribe anti-biotics and rest with plenty of water intake..

Now, with this information laid out, I do not feel sick. I’m not tired, dehydrated, and I don’t feel worn out. I am not working out right now (I’m no fool) but this is very strange. My assumption is my immune system although allowed me to develop the Bronchitis (I had pleurisy as a child so this type of infection is normal for me) I am not getting worse, and I am in fact recovering very quickly. I have to assume it is the Dermacrine for I am not taking anything else...

 

[karter]

Now Derma cures Bronchitis. What's next???

They really must be hooking you guys up good. Because you guys are laying it on thick!!!

 

[Primordial Performance]

Now Derma cures Bronchitis. What's next???

They really must be hooking you guys up good. Because you guys are laying it on thick!!!

Im glad your followin the derma threads so close karter...

You must be sold by now... lol

-Pp

 

[karter]

Im glad your followin the derma threads so close karter...

You must be sold by now... lol

-Pp

Not yet. But I'm watching very close.

 

[SpyWizard]

Now Derma cures Bronchitis. What's next???

They really must be hooking you guys up good. Because you guys are laying it on thick!!!

No, what i am saying is it helped with am recovery, and i didn't get as sick as I usually do..??

I'm confused?? did they not want you to try the product?? or pee in your cornflakes??

aww.. i see, you are just skeptical.. that's ok.. I stand behind my comments and experiences, and i am well known, not so much on this board but on many others.. I have a rep of saying what i think about something.. or i don't say anything negative other than i won't use it..

 

[SpyWizard]

3/28/07

So, it’s been 2 weeks using this product, as noted I am currently in an active PCT (post cycle therapy) I took the 2nd saliva test today and sent it off.

I have to wonder after using this product, how it would effect someone that had not used aas before. I also have to ponder the possibility of this product being used 1 month on and 1 month off in a cyclic protocol. I also wonder if it could be used as an HRT type format replacing the necessity of injectable test all together. So many question and so little time.

Anyway, I have to say I am very impressed not only with the product, but with the responsiveness of the company. If you can believe it or not, I called the 800 # and after asking to speak to the man himself, he actually answered the phone. Yep, no voice mail for me, and they didn’t even ask who was calling. I had some questions that we discussed in regards to a possible issue with my nips being swollen, after some discussion we (meaning I) determined it was probably the 3iu of GH that I was using. I stopped the use of the GH, and sure enough they flattened right back out.

Some have described their experience as running a light cycle, I would have to agree to a point. I wouldn’t suggest that you would add 10-15 lbs of mass running this product no matter your diet, but if you wanted to run a caloric restrictive routine while running this product it would probably allow you to do so with little to no loss of muscle.

Still showing an increase in strength, I’m doing a high rep low weight, but I just had to see how far I could go, so I put up 80 lb db for 14 reps today, on the incline bench as the 3rd set of 4. This was after doing 4 other exercises for the upper body. So, the plan is during the 4th week, I will attempt to do a 3 rep max lift on all my exercises to see where I end up..

Then 2 weeks after I stop using Dermacrine I will do the same exercises. That will be a different test for everyone..

 

[bmcadoo44]

I am going to try the derma post cycle myself. I am coming off test 5oo mg's per week!

My ballz are marbles!!!

my balls are marbles too. i have been on for 14 weeks now and i got 4 more weeks left

cant wait for my balls to get back

 

[SpyWizard]

my balls are marbles too. i have been on for 14 weeks now and i got 4 more weeks left

cant wait for my balls to get back

you can use HCG during the cycle, or myogenX.. only 2 things i know of that will bring them back even when on cycle..

 

[D_Mac]

Dermacrine

I'm just finishing a test/var/tbol cycle now...
10 weeks
500mg test e
1-4 50mg tbol
4-10 50mg var

1-current 3iu GH 5/2 split

I was one of the 1st to rave about Omega's Amplify02, and still do, love that stuff.. consuming 8-10caps 45 minutes pre workout no consumption on non workout days.
Will stop using it during this 1st week to ensure effects and sides from Dermacrine.

age 46
5'9"
210
bf 14%


3/13/2007 started Dermacrine 16 days after last test e injection

Saliva test taken 8:00 am
40 pumps upper body, shoulders, upper arms
Sense of wellbeing that lasted until 3pm
Serious energy crash 4:30 took a nap

3/14/2007

40 pumps upper body, shoulders upper arms, neck
Sense of wellbeing
Took thermogenic am and pm
No energy crash

3/15

Holy mother of all morning wood… standing tall and looking good..
40 pumps upper body 12:00
Felt really good all day, and into the evening
No crash

3/17
Chased and caught the wife 3 times this weekend, she insists that I either find something that will boost her libido this much, or well, she didn’t really give me any other choice.. It’s been a long long time since I felt this amorous and it’s not her, it’s more me, and getting older and not recovering from cycles enough.. but hey, it’s working now..


3/18
Wife came up prego today, results were positive 2 days in a row… we’ve been trying for 6 yrs to get pregnant, so it just seems like the timing is weird.. in a good way

3/19
Seems that if I delay putting on the product later in the morning, the effects last me longer, or rather I don’t seem to have an energy crash later in the day, I am going to start messing with my diet more to see if that has an effect..
Sleep is very good, sound and 7-9 hours normally, lots of dreams and I am waking up 2x per night to urinate.
Did I mention that I am horny all the time??

Gym has been ok, I normally use Amplify 02 for my pre workout and I have been avoiding using it during this 1st week, not as much energy, and no strength loss, but not increasing weights or reps… that’s kind of weird, as in I seem to be stagnant, but at least I am not falling off in my strength like I have in the past doing pct.

Motivation is good, not great… weird thing I noticed today, I seem to be vascular, more so than when I finished the cycle, I will continue to observe or see if I get any sides that I normally get while in pct..

Nipples are fine, a little puffy, but no big deal, not tender so there doesn’t seem to be any rebound effect from too much estrogen.

Ok, did my normal back routine tonight, broke down and added back into the mix my normal 10 caps of Amplify 02… after being off it for 1 week I have to say I missed it allot. Intense routine back/bi with leg extensions and calves thrown in to keep me fresh.

Observation thus far, I like the product allot, testicle size is increasing, during sex my testicles would migrate into my body cavity (remember I was finishing a cycle), this weekend, they no longer fit anymore..

+1...

I'm 22, wasn't expecting this to say the least...

well it's better than getting diagnosed with cancer

I want kids, just didn't expect to start so early

 

[SpyWizard]

3/31/07

Yesterday I slept late 9:30, and had to rush to a doc appointment with the wife, didn’t make it home until 3:30, did some work around the house and realized I hadn’t used the Dermacrine that day. So I hopped into the shower at about 5:00, exfoliated, and used 40 squirts. Took my amplify 02 8 caps and went to the gym at 7:30. Finished there about 9:00, went home pwo shake, and a late meal steak/potato boiled.

I share this with you because I could not go to sleep until 4:00am… it was brutal, I usually would have doped myself with Tylenol pm, or Nyquil if I think I am having some issues with sleep, but next thing I know it is 4:00am.. crap.. At least my nice wife let me sleep until 11:00 this morning and brought me breakfast in bed

 

[SpyWizard]

4/4

Ok, got over my cold, have been working out throughout the ordeal, did not notice any strength loss, some recovery issues were noted, as in it takes me a little longer to recover, but I will chalk that up to loss of fluids and lack of sleep.

Strength is up 15-30%, as an example my incline DB is now at 85 x 20 at the beginning, I am taking some time to rest, and will post all of my max lifts on the different routines, I’m sure I will be getting the 100’s up before the end of this experiment.

I did introduce Venom to the mix and have dropped Amplify 02 as a pre workout, this is in part to I want to see how much the Amplify 02 is effecting the strength gains and energy levels. The only real issue with Venom is it will kill your appetite, if you are on AAS that’s ok if you are cutting, but otherwise I’m not a big believer in starving..

 

[SpyWizard]

4/5

Ok, more info probably more than you want to know, testicular size is definitely up, to the point that they do not enter into the body cavity just before ejaculation.

Does this mean that sperm production is up?? No, volume of ejaculate is up, meaning increased, but unless I go for a sperm count I won’t know, and since I just got the wife prego.. I’m not going to do that..

I would really like to see someone that has not done a cycle in 6 months try this product as a stand alone, and give a review, that is my big ??? how they would respond..

 

[wzkid]

I would really like to see someone that has not done a cycle in 6 months try this product as a stand alone, and give a review, that is my big ??? how they would respond..

Got a friend that has ordered the original and is going to try as a sub to aas. Has some freaking hang-up about needles, lol

Will post if he sees results.

 

[tshoot]

Interesting read - thanks for sharing.

 

[SpyWizard]

Got a friend that has ordered the original and is going to try as a sub to aas. Has some freaking hang-up about needles, lol

Will post if he sees results.

excellent.. has he ever run a test cycle before?? does he know what effects he can expect/??

thanks for sharing..

 

[wzkid]

excellent.. has he ever run a test cycle before?? does he know what effects he can expect/??

thanks for sharing..

He has no idea but, just started back working out after a few years. He has never done a cycle and probably wont. He is 39 and worried about his test starting to decrease and figures that this may be a boost. I told him that if it works he may want to just cycle dermacrine. 4 weeks on then 4 weeks off.

 

[needtogetaas]

He has no idea but, just started back working out after a few years. He has never done a cycle and probably wont. He is 39 and worried about his test starting to decrease and figures that this may be a boost. I told him that if it works he may want to just cycle dermacrine. 4 weeks on then 4 weeks off.

sounds good.

 

[SpyWizard]

4/10/07

Results from saliva test pre application of the Dermicine dated 3/13/07
Estrone (saliva) 1.9 pg/ml 0-3.0 range Normal
Testosterone (saliva) 286pg/ml 44-148 (age dependent) High
DHEAS (saliva) 11.7pg/ml 2-23 (age dependent) Normal

I am very happy with these levels, I can’t wait to see what my results will be after 2 weeks use of Dermacrine.

Tomorrow I will begin the application of Dermacrine Sustain for 4 weeks.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Yeah, those are great levels.

Were you on any HCG, clomid, arimidex, ect ... before using the Dermacrine?

 

[D_Mac]

4/10/07

Results from saliva test pre application of the Dermicine dated 3/13/07
Estrone (saliva) 1.9 pg/ml 0-3.0 range Normal
Testosterone (saliva) 286pg/ml 44-148 (age dependent) High
DHEAS (saliva) 11.7pg/ml 2-23 (age dependent) Normal

I am very happy with these levels, I can’t wait to see what my results will be after 2 weeks use of Dermacrine.

Tomorrow I will begin the application of Dermacrine Sustain for 4 weeks.

Ya thats pretty impressive natural Test levels Wizard. And on the dumbell incline, your saying 85lb dumbells sets of 20?, thats pretty good man, you must be a beast with those natty test levels.

 

[SpyWizard]

Yeah, those are great levels.

Were you on any HCG, clomid, arimidex, ect ... before using the Dermacrine?

believe it or not.. some 20mg nolva stopped 2 weeks before starting,

By the way, i stopped administration of GH, 2 weeks ago, and the puffy nips have returned to normal.

I'll just hold off and do a different experiment with that product later.

 

[SpyWizard]

Ya thats pretty impressive natural Test levels Wizard. And on the dumbell incline, your saying 85lb dumbells sets of 20?, thats pretty good man, you must be a beast with those natty test levels.

naw, that was while on week 3 i think of using Dermacrine... there is absolutely a strength gain.. using this product..

for me anyway.. i intend to take a week off coming up, and get rested, then do 2 warm up days, and then do a strength testing.. should be very interesting..

 

[D_Mac]

naw, that was while on week 3 i think of using Dermacrine... there is absolutely a strength gain.. using this product..

for me anyway.. i intend to take a week off coming up, and get rested, then do 2 warm up days, and then do a strength testing.. should be very interesting..

Do you have your strenght tests before the cycle, and end of cycle too? It would be interesting to compare those to your post dermacrine use levels. Keep us posted.

 

[SpyWizard]

Do you have your strenght tests before the cycle, and end of cycle too? It would be interesting to compare those to your post dermacrine use levels. Keep us posted.

well, today i did 70 lb db on incline x 20, then with no rest did 35 lbs x 20 x 5 sets.. on the 5th set.. i did just the 70's..

I hope to do 100 lb db x 8 by the end of april.. we'll see..

 

[D_Mac]

Do you have your strenght tests before the cycle, and end of cycle too? It would be interesting to compare those to your post dermacrine use levels. Keep us posted.

the strongest I ever got, right before i pulled my pec, I did 120x8 flat dumbell bench, I also did 315 set of 3 flat barbell bench. once that pec pulled though I couldn't go hard on it the rest of that year and since then I have just focused on endurance.

 

[SpyWizard]

4/18/07

Well, there is a difference with Dermacrine and Dermacrine Sustain, a big difference, 1st the original Dermacrine gave me crazy strength gains, recovery was very good, and energy was good.. This is because the original was more estrogenic, plus the original does have the higher DHEA and possible conversion to estron/estradiol.. This is a good thing for me, but might not be right for you..

The Dermacrine Sustain, dried me out, still had good strength, and recovery, but there is a small difference.. The Sustain is the product that is really focused on getting your natural production of test back to normal by getting your balls back to their normal production levels.

Love both products, if you are “puffy susceptible” I’d recommend the Dermacrine Sustain… if you want a supplement that will let you continue the feeling like you are still on, and at the same time getting your natural production back in line, do the original..

 

[D_Mac]

Spywizard I love your avatar, thats crackin me up man.

 

[SpyWizard]

thanks man.. i'm just foolin around with them right now, can't find one that really fits..

 

[SpyWizard]

4/24/07

Did chest today, 95lb db for 20.. so the Dermacrine Sustain is still doing it’s thing, it will be interesting to see the results of the labs once they get back..
Softball 3x week double headers and Volleyball (Sand) will be going strong in the next week or so. Recovery is most crucial during this time, so I hope my additional strength, and faster recovery that I have been enjoying continues..

 

[D_Mac]

4/24/07

Did chest today, 95lb db for 20.. so the Dermacrine Sustain is still doing it’s thing, it will be interesting to see the results of the labs once they get back..
Softball 3x week double headers and Volleyball (Sand) will be going strong in the next week or so. Recovery is most crucial during this time, so I hope my additional strength, and faster recovery that I have been enjoying continues..

Hey what have you noticed stamina wise with sustain. I am gettin a bottle mainly for the stamina gains from the resveratrol, have you noticed anything in that department?

 

[SpyWizard]

Hey what have you noticed stamina wise with sustain. I am gettin a bottle mainly for the stamina gains from the resveratrol, have you noticed anything in that department?

recovery and stamina is great, that's obvious since i have been doing the high rep, overkill routines..

 

[SpyWizard]

4/30/07

Sent saliva test away today, we will see the results. So far, no matter what the results come back as, I will say this product works, and in a big way. I get side effects that are not desirable from Nova and clomid mostly vision issues, and the nolva, well, I don’t respond to Trib either.

As I have stated earlier, the Dermacrine in the original formula gives me a very good kick as it were, I respond very well to that product as in strength gains, some topical fat loss, and increased libido, and ejaculate.

The Dermacrine Sustain, well, it doesn’t have that “kick”, but it took my testicles to a whole new level, as an example, during sex, at the point of ejaculation normally the testicles will retract into the body cavity (shut up) now there is just not enough room, the testicles still seize up at that special moment, but, the have no where they can go.

So after 3 weeks of the Dermacrine Sustain, I experienced increased libido, ( no need for cialis any longer) and the desire to have sex is normal for a 23 yr old (I’m 46), ejaculate has returned to better than pre aas use cycle, energy and recovery is very good and will I use and recommend this product as an alternative to Clomid and Nolva??? Yes… However if you are using Tren/Deca/Test as a cycle, I can not comment on it’s effectiveness, especially since I have not run Tren, so I would recommend you seeking others’ experience using this product.

The product and company as a whole?? I was afforded the opportunity to speak with the President himself when I called with a concern I had, he answered my questions and I tried his suggestions that eliminated the problem I was having. OK, I was taking 3iu of GH and was experiencing some puffy nips, he suggested it might be the issue, and I stopped using the GH and the side effect stopped, are you happy??

Feel free to pm, or email me with any questions you might have for these products.

 

[D_Mac]

4/30/07

Sent saliva test away today, we will see the results. So far, no matter what the results come back as, I will say this product works, and in a big way. I get side effects that are not desirable from Nova and clomid mostly vision issues, and the nolva, well, I don’t respond to Trib either.

As I have stated earlier, the Dermacrine in the original formula gives me a very good kick as it were, I respond very well to that product as in strength gains, some topical fat loss, and increased libido, and ejaculate.

The Dermacrine Sustain, well, it doesn’t have that “kick”, but it took my testicles to a whole new level, as an example, during sex, at the point of ejaculation normally the testicles will retract into the body cavity (shut up) now there is just not enough room, the testicles still seize up at that special moment, but, the have no where they can go.

So after 3 weeks of the Dermacrine Sustain, I experienced increased libido, ( no need for cialis any longer) and the desire to have sex is normal for a 23 yr old (I’m 46), ejaculate has returned to better than pre aas use cycle, energy and recovery is very good and will I use and recommend this product as an alternative to Clomid and Nolva??? Yes… However if you are using Tren/Deca/Test as a cycle, I can not comment on it’s effectiveness, especially since I have not run Tren, so I would recommend you seeking others’ experience using this product.

The product and company as a whole?? I was afforded the opportunity to speak with the President himself when I called with a concern I had, he answered my questions and I tried his suggestions that eliminated the problem I was having. OK, I was taking 3iu of GH and was experiencing some puffy nips, he suggested it might be the issue, and I stopped using the GH and the side effect stopped, are you happy??

Feel free to pm, or email me with any questions you might have for these products.

Great to hear Wiz, started back on Dermacrine yesterday and I will do it for 4 weeks, just as a stand alone, after that I am goin on the sustain for 4, I am hopin the combo will help me get in running shape. I'll let u guys know how it goes, I am on week 2 day 2 of my running plan, let me know what you guys think of that too.

I adapted this plan to my works track, it's not quite a full 1/4 mile track. To be safe I am assuming that each lap is 3/4 of a regular lap, or 3/16 of a mile. At this calculation 16 laps= 3 miles. So my goal is to get my fat ass running 3 miles at a good pace. Then I want to start cutting my time down, to the point that I can do 3 miles in about 22:30. Then I would be confident I could hit a 2 miler in 13:00.


Week 1
tues thurs
type laps type laps type laps
jog 2 jog 2 jog 2
walk 1 walk 1 walk 1
jog 3 jog 3 jog 3
walk 2 walk 2 walk 2
jog 2 jog 2 jog 2
walk 1 walk 1 walk 1
jog 3 jog 3 jog 3


Week 2
sun tues thurs
type laps type laps type laps
jog 3 jog 4 jog 9
walk 2 walk 3
jog 3 jog 4
walk 2
jog 3


Week 3
sun tues thurs
type laps type laps type laps
jog 3 jog 5 jog 11
walk 2 walk 2
jog 3 jog 5
walk 2
jog 3


Week 4
sun tues thurs
type laps type laps type laps
jog 11 jog 12 jog 13


Week 5
sun tues thurs
type laps type laps type laps
jog 14 jog 14 jog 14


Week 6
sun tues thurs
type laps type laps type laps
jog 16 jog 16 jog 16

 

[SpyWizard]

i can't run, never picked up the skill.. i can sprint like a young man.. but running.. something i never did learn how to do..

cardio is a fast walk on a treadmill.. or elliptical..

Good luck, keep a log of the product and results.. thanks for sharing..

 

[D_Mac]

Great to hear Wiz, started back on Dermacrine yesterday and I will do it for 4 weeks, just as a stand alone, after that I am goin on the sustain for 4, I am hopin the combo will help me get in running shape. I'll let u guys know how it goes, I am on week 2 day 2 of my running plan, let me know what you guys think of that too.

I adapted this plan to my works track, it's not quite a full 1/4 mile track. To be safe I am assuming that each lap is 3/4 of a regular lap, or 3/16 of a mile. At this calculation 16 laps= 3 miles. So my goal is to get my fat ass running 3 miles at a good pace. Then I want to start cutting my time down, to the point that I can do 3 miles in about 22:30. Then I would be confident I could hit a 2 miler in 13:00.


Week 1
tues thurs
type laps type laps type laps
jog 2 jog 2 jog 2
walk 1 walk 1 walk 1
jog 3 jog 3 jog 3
walk 2 walk 2 walk 2
jog 2 jog 2 jog 2
walk 1 walk 1 walk 1
jog 3 jog 3 jog 3


Week 2
sun tues thurs
type laps type laps type laps
jog 3 jog 4 jog 9
walk 2 walk 3
jog 3 jog 4
walk 2
jog 3


Week 3
sun tues thurs
type laps type laps type laps
jog 3 jog 5 jog 11
walk 2 walk 2
jog 3 jog 5
walk 2
jog 3


Week 4
sun tues thurs
type laps type laps type laps
jog 11 jog 12 jog 13


Week 5
sun tues thurs
type laps type laps type laps
jog 14 jog 14 jog 14


Week 6
sun tues thurs
type laps type laps type laps
jog 16 jog 16 jog 16

wow, that workout plan looked so much better before it was posted. That is totally incomprehensible. Well never mind, suffice it to say in 6 weeks im supposed to be able to run 3 miles, I'm on my second week, so far so good, it actually hurts less now to workout then it did in the first week even with increasing distances.