Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I am 5'7" and have weighed from 140-168. I have a friend who is 6'1" 220lbs. We are like 20-21 years old. We both did our first cycle this Spring. We did primo/winnie. About 400mg p/week and 50mg w/eod. We both had good results. I gained about 30lbs on my bench and put on 18lbs. My friend went from a max of about 355, naturally incidentally, to about 410. We were both quite pleased with our first cycle. We both figured that we would try some stronger stuff next time around though. A few months later I did 400/400 per week eq/test cyp. My friend did 400/750-1000 eq/sust and 100mg winnie eod. This time we both experianced severe depressions while on juice, something we had not experianced on the first cycle. I remained relatively unchanged on most measures of strength, with the exception of increases in my trap strength. My friend actually lost strength on this cycle. We both used nolva at around 20mg per day and he threw in some arimidex as well. I do not know if that might have hindered our progress to some extent. At any rate, my friend gained nothing and I gained only about 4lbs. I quit the cyp after 7 weeks and the eq after 8 because I could not tolerate the depression any longer. My friend continued but did not realize any results and continued to be depressed. Has anyone had simmilar experiances? We are thinking that we might not be very responsive to the tests and that we might be more responsive to the more synthetic roids. In this vain we were thinking about decca for the our next cycle. I want size. I am back down to 150 after a ketosis diet and DNP. I want a solid 170lbs. Any recommendations on cycles that do not involve the testosterone esters that might be succesful for me? Is this depression thing particular to the test esters or does it come as the result of using e blockers or some other cause that I have not thought about? Any help would be appreciated.
Depression and Disappointing Cylces
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Are you sure it was real ? What were your diets like ? 400mg/week of Eq and 750-1000mg/week of Sust and no gains sounds very depressing to me as well 
I noticed Eq increases my anxiety and panik attacks but I am not sure if that is what is causing it.
M18
I noticed Eq increases my anxiety and panik attacks but I am not sure if that is what is causing it.M18
My test cyp was from a really good source in Toronto from Canadian UpJohn. It was in boxes with the package inserts and everything. The eq was some Latin American stuff called Mitigan, I think, to be correct the sust was actually russian omna from Jeffa, and the winnie was American UpJohn. I am pretty sure it was all real. This was the same guy we got the first stuff from. This guy stocks mostly stuff only from major international pharmacutical companies.
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I suspect everyone responds differently to test and gear, personally I have not experienced depression, in fact it makes me feel better and happier in general.
With regards specifically your question about test, I think test should be the base AS in any cycle cutting or bulking.
For shear size D-bol, anadrol, fina, gh, parabolan are good, but don’t rule out test.
There could be another explanation to what happened, you may have had bad test, or it could have been fake, or a number or other possibilities.
I’m not trying to talk you in to using test again if it is in fact the cause of your depression, I’m just thinking that it may have been an isolated situation to the gear you guys were using. And if so worth another consideration or try.
Bump for a little more help here!!!!!
With regards specifically your question about test, I think test should be the base AS in any cycle cutting or bulking.
For shear size D-bol, anadrol, fina, gh, parabolan are good, but don’t rule out test.
There could be another explanation to what happened, you may have had bad test, or it could have been fake, or a number or other possibilities.
I’m not trying to talk you in to using test again if it is in fact the cause of your depression, I’m just thinking that it may have been an isolated situation to the gear you guys were using. And if so worth another consideration or try.
Bump for a little more help here!!!!!
Mark4124 said:
If you run something along side the D-Bol like Test and or eq then you should be able to keep all the gains you make (minus the water weight)
M18
Most if not all the guys say that Test makes them feel great. I was fine until I started my Eq, then I really started to notice the panik attacks and anxiety but I can't dsay it was the Eq for sure.
M18
M18
I don't know, this is really odd. It may be other things going on, but it's hard to dismiss if you got depressed while on, and felt better almost immediately when you stopped.
I feel so much better when on, and if anything, am depressed while off. Maybe not depressed, just that I feel so good while on, comparitively I feel depressed while off.
If I were you, I might have to go back for the primo/winny that you were first on.
Good luck, this has got to be frustrating.
I feel so much better when on, and if anything, am depressed while off. Maybe not depressed, just that I feel so good while on, comparitively I feel depressed while off.
If I were you, I might have to go back for the primo/winny that you were first on.
Good luck, this has got to be frustrating.
Mark4124 said:
I would give the Test one more Try and see how you like it. Also St Johns Wort is good for depression and panik attacks. Give it a try, it takes about am month to work.
M18
I think this is a perfect example of the effects of test. While I agree that test should be the base in every cycle, you should add some deca or eq and some d-bol to keep the gains. Otherwise you blow up and then lose it all post cycle. I know some of you will argue this and tell us about the results of your test only cycle, but you are the exception to the rule. For most people (I include myself and many people I know) these are the effects.
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