Delts and Chest together?

[JKurz1]

ANyone do these together? I'm reading more and more about people paring these two, just wonder how it's working out..........2x a week?

 

[Frango]

I do, once a week, +tris. This is the best split for me to get stronger.
I only do laterals for the shoulders tho, let the inclines do the trick for the front head and the rows and pulls for the other head.
And I do the laterals 5 ou 6 sets of 12 with the same weight, focusing on weight progression. This is the only bodypart I do more than 3 sets a week.

 

[JKurz1]

what does your routine look like?

 

[cwick0]

good luck jkurz.
if i wasnt as whipped after doing my chest i would consider doing them. I just think if you work your chest hard enough you shouldnt have the energy or strenght to train anything else on the same day.

 

[Frango]

I´ve got 2 different routines, I alternate one each week
Here´s 1 of em:

a) bench press, 8 reps till failure, rest pause till hit 16 (reps that the spotter touches the bar are not counted) (try to increase weight every session)
b) incline db press, 2x10 (failure) (try to increase weight every session)
c) laterals, 5x12 ou 4x12 + 15 (rest pause till 30) (only last set till failure) (try to increase weight every session)
d) straight bar push downs, 3x8 (trying to add 2 reps per set each week till 12, then increase weight)

Extreme strechting after each bodypart for 1min, DC style, 3min rest between sets.

 

[JKurz1]

good luck jkurz.
if i wasnt as whipped after doing my chest i would consider doing them. I just think if you work your chest hard enough you shouldnt have the energy or strenght to train anything else on the same day.

I agree bro....I agree......just was curious

 

[big4life]

good luck jkurz.
if i wasnt as whipped after doing my chest i would consider doing them. I just think if you work your chest hard enough you shouldnt have the energy or strenght to train anything else on the same day.

I agree. I use to work chest and bi's together, but once I started going real heavy on my chest workouts I noticed my bicep routine was suffering. Now I have a seperate day for chest.

As for working chest and delts together, that seems like a lot. I always leave at least a day between my chest and shoulder days.

 

[punch]

Zane did Chest/ Shoulders/ Tris in same day. I did this and it is tough bro. I cant imagine doing this 2x a week. I think if you kept everything compound you could fair well. The theory is good, its just that one bodypart is gonna suffer a bit IMO.

 

[cwick0]

I agree bro....I agree......just was curious

That's exactly what i figured, you were just curious. You know...curiousity killed the cat, lol.

I like the idea, but how much are you going to get out of it.

What the hell, try and see if you like it. If you do, let us know.

 

[bignate73]

i have a heavy bench day, with light shoulder work (laterals, rotator etc) then i have a heavy overhead press day with light chest work. works fine. no overlapping soreness etc. fits well into the week.

 

[bigdho]

push/pull bro.............if your going to do multi parts per session employing the push/pull technic is a good idea for most. ie chest bis, back tris training this way will alow you to train each part to the max. If you train parts that are both pushing movements the first part you train is taxed hard but the next is not worked as well and so on.

 

[InTraining]

I find doing chest\delts short changes my delts big time....

Right now I have a day in between my delt and chest workout (chest first thing in week rest and delts\tris) and this is working out very well..

Though bignate's idea looks very interesting, would you mind laying out the split you are doing?

I think Bigdho also makes good points in that you well be fatiguing the secondary muscles whenever you work your major muscles...

 

[wnt2bBeast]

push/pull bro.............if your going to do multi parts per session employing the push/pull technic is a good idea for most. ie chest bis, back tris training this way will alow you to train each part to the max. If you train parts that are both pushing movements the first part you train is taxed hard but the next is not worked as well and so on.

i agree..

 

[bignate73]

for a real basic outline:

upper bench:
bench movement
row or pullup
tricep movement
laterals or rotator work

lower squat/gm/dead emphasis
accessory work for lower body

off

upper overhead emphasis
standing BB press to 5 or 3RM
row or pullup i missed earlier in week
tricep work (different plane)
dips, pushups, or dbell press palms facing
bicep or hammer curls

lower squat/gm/dead emphasis (rotate)
accessory work for lower

i dont do speed work for upper body, too hard on the shoulder joints. i rotate intensities to cover diff fiber types.

 

[InTraining]

for a real basic outline:

upper bench:
bench movement
row or pullup
tricep movement
laterals or rotator work

lower squat/gm/dead emphasis
accessory work for lower body

off

upper overhead emphasis
standing BB press to 5 or 3RM
row or pullup i missed earlier in week
tricep work (different plane)
dips, pushups, or dbell press palms facing
bicep or hammer curls

lower squat/gm/dead emphasis (rotate)
accessory work for lower

i dont do speed work for upper body, too hard on the shoulder joints. i rotate intensities to cover diff fiber types.

Thanks, karma for the help

 

[bignate73]

Askem Windmills for those interested.

 

[WalkingBeast]

ANyone do these together? I'm reading more and more about people paring these two, just wonder how it's working out..........2x a week?

Ive been hitting delts right after inclines on sundays. I like it alot. I do flat benches and speed work on thursdays. Delts once a week is enough for me since I hit the rear delts once to twice a week and the very high volume of chest work I complete weekly (around 45 sets). I feel real warmed up when I go into the delt work though and it feels good. Get a great overall pump as well.

 

[SAGAT]

i've paired chest and delts together for a good while now and i must say it's been working great. i can definitely notice that my delts have developed a whole lot better than when i did them combined with back. i definitely suggest givin it a shot.

 

[zxe003]

Chest and delts worked well for me for a while. I would always follow up chest with delts because of the pre-exhaust I got from my inclines and other presses. However, I was also doing a lot less weight for delts and more volume. This was around the time that I started doing a lot of static hold side laterals and supersets between arnold presses and upright rows. I wasn't doing heavy military's or even heavy Db presses. Now that I'm back to heavier weights for delts, I don't think I would benefit as well by pairing them up with chest on the same day again.