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Decided that I'm going blast and cruise for life (age 24) and 3 questions

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Im 24 I have been bodybuilding for many years... competitive bodybuilder in the last 3 years and currently doing very well and now i really want to make a name for myself... I Just finished a 16 week cutting cycle of test/tren/mast/winny which got me looking amazing!

I am now in my 2nd week of PCT and cannot wait to get back on..... This time around however I want to stay on. In 16 weeks time i want to start my next cycle.

BLAST: (16 weeks)

16 weeks test prop @ 60mg/ED
14 weeks tren ace @ 60mg/ED
12 weeks anavar @ 60mg/ED

16 weeks hcg @ 250iu 2x per week
16 weeks aromasin @ 12.5mg
1ml Prami ED

CRUISE: (8 weeks)

8 weeks test prop @ 30mg/ED (or slightly less)
8 weeks aroasin @ 12.5mg/ED

REPEAT.

Questions:

1) how long should a cruise be? Can i cruise for 4 weeks only then blast again?

2) Do i need hcg in my cruise?

3) How should my aromasin dosage be in my cruise? should i go 12.5mg every SECOND day instead of ED?
 
Another thread another plan..... whats happening this time Ryan,

hmmm, let me guess...

cycle layout will be ED shots for 4 months straight , 14 weeks of tren with some noob questions at the bottom of the post ...

next always come the part where you ignore all the sensible advice that comes your way and THEN its time to start ANOTHER new thread.
 
C0LUMB0 said:
Another thread another plan..... whats happening this time Ryan,

hmmm, let me guess...

cycle layout will be ED shots for 4 months straight , 14 weeks of tren with some noob questions at the bottom of the post ...

next always come the part where you ignore all the sensible advice that comes your way and THEN its time to start ANOTHER new thread.
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So any advice then........?

my last cycle was 16 weeks and ED i don't mind pinning i actually look forward to it.
 
Just doesnt make sense to pin ED , for a 16 week run and then into a cruise ( which i think is crazy considering your age ) a long ester is ideal.
you will be running an ai , in this case a type 2 aromasin - which means estro /bloat will be zero.
why are you dosing aromain @ 12.5 ED ? eod is plenty

you are using hcg while on-cycle to keep testicular function and some lh stimulation ...this would help you going into pct BUT you are not going to do pct you are going to stay ON.
and then you will use hcg while crusing ( which is just another name for light cycle ) ...and you are considering cruising at 24 ....why the fuck would you do that to yourself at this stage. My buddy RADAR is 60 , he cycles on and off ...and is in amazing shape - better than most guys less than half his age here or anywhere else.

Not flamming you but your lack of basic knowledge and the fact that you say you have ran previous sucessfull cycles just does not stack up.

and you also say you are in serious competion shape heading towards a pro card early in life ?

can you post up some pics and shed some light on these serious contradictions .
 
C0LUMB0 said:
Just doesnt make sense to pin ED , for a 16 week run and then into a cruise ( which i think is crazy considering your age ) a long ester is ideal.
you will be running an ai , in this case a type 2 aromasin - which means estro /bloat will be zero.
why are you dosing aromain @ 12.5 ED ? eod is plenty

you are using hcg while on-cycle to keep testicular function and some lh stimulation ...this would help you going into pct BUT you are not going to do pct you are going to stay ON.
and then you will use hcg while crusing ( which is just another name for light cycle ) ...and you are considering cruising at 24 ....why the fuck would you do that to yourself at this stage. My buddy RADAR is 60 , he cycles on and off ...and is in amazing shape - better than most guys less than half his age here or anywhere else.

Not flamming you but your lack of basic knowledge and the fact that you say you have ran previous sucessfull cycles just does not stack up.

and you also say you are in serious competion shape heading towards a pro card early in life ?

can you post up some pics and shed some light on these serious contradictions .
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^^^^this is really good advice I would take this to heart.

You plan on pinning every day for the rest of you life? There are lots of unknowns to consider with self administered TRT. Ie, the legality of it - there is no guarantee you will always be able to get it. There is no guarantee you will always be able to afford it. Shoot there is no guarantee it will even exist in say 30-40 years. (When you will only be in your 50s) Many other possible factors. There are so many things you have not learned and/or not experienced at 24. Things that are game changers and life changers. Point being, your plan seems like a good idea now, but as life happens and things change your plan might not seem like a great idea and you might want to change it. But at that point, the damage is done, your pituitary gland is f'ed up for good and you will be deficient for life. Now you're stuck, and you have no options.

I'm not judging what you are doing as right or wrong, just trying to give some perspective on the long term consequences of the path you are embarking on. I know it is hard to fully understand and appreciate at your young age - but try to learn from the wisdom of the experienced members here even if it is not what you want to hear. In the end, you will make a decision and go one way or the other. But make sure that decision is as educated as possible.

I'm only 32 so not really an 'old guy' per se - but the perspective, experience and wisdom I have now compared to when I was 24 is mind blowing.

Things can change - leave yourself some options.

Best of luck to you bro
 
C0LUMB0 said:
Just doesnt make sense to pin ED , for a 16 week run and then into a cruise ( which i think is crazy considering your age ) a long ester is ideal.
you will be running an ai , in this case a type 2 aromasin - which means estro /bloat will be zero.
why are you dosing aromain @ 12.5 ED ? eod is plenty

you are using hcg while on-cycle to keep testicular function and some lh stimulation ...this would help you going into pct BUT you are not going to do pct you are going to stay ON.
and then you will use hcg while crusing ( which is just another name for light cycle ) ...and you are considering cruising at 24 ....why the fuck would you do that to yourself at this stage. My buddy RADAR is 60 , he cycles on and off ...and is in amazing shape - better than most guys less than half his age here or anywhere else.

Not flamming you but your lack of basic knowledge and the fact that you say you have ran previous sucessfull cycles just does not stack up.

and you also say you are in serious competion shape heading towards a pro card early in life ?

can you post up some pics and shed some light on these serious contradictions .
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thanks for the reply columbo.... how does it not make sense to pin ED for 16 weeks?

i though aromasin was dosed at 12.5mg thats what i have been told and done in all my previous cycles, maybe ill drop it down to EOD.

ok so i will ditch the hcg then....

what are my chances of still having kids later on in life if I'm on trt?
 
tha_Waco_kid said:
^^^^this is really good advice I would take this to heart.

You plan on pinning every day for the rest of you life? There are lots of unknowns to consider with self administered TRT. Ie, the legality of it - there is no guarantee you will always be able to get it. There is no guarantee you will always be able to afford it. Shoot there is no guarantee it will even exist in say 30-40 years. (When you will only be in your 50s) Many other possible factors. There are so many things you have not learned and/or not experienced at 24. Things that are game changers and life changers. Point being, your plan seems like a good idea now, but as life happens and things change your plan might not seem like a great idea and you might want to change it. But at that point, the damage is done, your pituitary gland is f'ed up for good and you will be deficient for life. Now you're stuck, and you have no options.

I'm not judging what you are doing as right or wrong, just trying to give some perspective on the long term consequences of the path you are embarking on. I know it is hard to fully understand and appreciate at your young age - but try to learn from the wisdom of the experienced members here even if it is not what you want to hear. In the end, you will make a decision and go one way or the other. But make sure that decision is as educated as possible.

I'm only 32 so not really an 'old guy' per se - but the perspective, experience and wisdom I have now compared to when I was 24 is mind blowing.

Things can change - leave yourself some options.

Best of luck to you bro
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thanks for the post really appreciate it...

yes i don't mind pinning ED i love pinning it gives me a rush and makes me feel "on" i would hate to only pin twice per week lol...

i don't know what to do.
 
bad idea unless you have a trust fund and are set for life.

in 3 years what happens if you decide to make a career change or your wife divorces you and now you owe 18 years of child support. your priorities might change my friend and then what? whats your plan to come off of this? i would have one.

i've seen people have kids and their life totally changes or get married. its all about the wifey and the kid after that. your wife might tell you one day i want you to spend more time with me and less on the gym and steroids. then what? so unless you are already married and your wife is cool with all this its something else to think about! you just not gonna have sex anymore or date? or how bout if you get into a car accident or any injury at the gym where the doc tells you that you have to stay out of the gym for months? then what? you gonna continue juicing and working out when you are injured? shit happens in life man that is unexpected. there is gonna be times when you just don't go to the gym for weeks or months. especially guys your age who are just starting out in life, even if you have a good career your boss could come to you one day and say you are fired or your company could go under.

i would read my thread from 2 weeks ago and how i bridged using natty supps from mr supps and NTBM and how i was able to not only retain my gains but also look amazing. and then i would look into SARM's after that. you have more options than just staying on for life. i made that thread so that guys like you would learn that you don't have to stay on juice all year to keep gains, and yet still people refuse to listen.
 
RyanGreg said:
thanks for the reply columbo.... how does it not make sense to pin ED for 16 weeks?

i though aromasin was dosed at 12.5mg thats what i have been told and done in all my previous cycles, maybe ill drop it down to EOD.

ok so i will ditch the hcg then....

what are my chances of still having kids later on in life if I'm on trt?
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You are all over the place man, you are way to uneducated in the use of AAS and immature to go any further with this , period.

You are 24 and make a stupid statement about staying on juice for the rest of your life and THEN ask if you will be able to have kids later in life,you then go on to show you have no knowledge on how the hpta even functions.

what dosage ?...how long ?...do i need this? ...do i need that?...can i have kids?... its a train wreck waiting to happen.

you are making really bad decisions and are looking to be spoonfed like a baby.

This is just getting ridiculous and dangerous

no more my friend , and dont start another thread on this shit or its bantville...and i mean it.
 
thanks for both your posts guys. a lot to be taken into consideration i guess.

i know there is a rule of time on/time off for those who do PCT but would a better option in my situation rather than blasting and cruising be to do 16 week cycle then 8 week PCT - presuming all blood work is fine. then repeat.

Im not just a local gym rat.. I'm really trying to make a name for myself as a competitive bodybuilder.

so how does 16 weeks on and 8 weeks PCT then continue that sound?
 
Sounds like the same shit you just said.

You're asking if staying on for 8 months out of the year and only coming off long enough for your levels to tank is different than staying on indefinitely.

It's all the same, you're just going to get more sides and be left with no choice but to pursue TRT before you're 30.


Stupid plan, bro.
 
RyanGreg said:
thanks for both your posts guys. a lot to be taken into consideration i guess.

i know there is a rule of time on/time off for those who do PCT but would a better option in my situation rather than blasting and cruising be to do 16 week cycle then 8 week PCT - presuming all blood work is fine. then repeat.

Im not just a local gym rat.. I'm really trying to make a name for myself as a competitive bodybuilder.

so how does 16 weeks on and 8 weeks PCT then continue that sound?
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it can take a good 5 or 6 weeks for the esters to clear the body fully. so essentially you would only be off 2 weeks.. hardly enough time for your HPTA to recover.

if you are gonna cycle then do it right. you sound like an addict who can't stay off. you need to look into the supplements available and SARM's that allow you to keep almost all your gains off cycle. if you are such a comp. bodybuilder than you should have no problem making gains WITHOUT the juice and with supplements that are as close to hormones as you can get WITHOUT suppression
 
stevesmi said:
it can take a good 5 or 6 weeks for the esters to clear the body fully. so essentially you would only be off 2 weeks.. hardly enough time for your HPTA to recover.

if you are gonna cycle then do it right. you sound like an addict who can't stay off. you need to look into the supplements available and SARM's that allow you to keep almost all your gains off cycle. if you are such a comp. bodybuilder than you should have no problem making gains WITHOUT the juice and with supplements that are as close to hormones as you can get WITHOUT suppression
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i used all fast esters test prop, mast, tren ace, winny would it still take 5-6 weeks??

I have no problem making gains without juice... but i want to make the best gains possible....thats why i want to do next cycle asap....
 
bigbassturd said:
Yes dude. It still takes weeks for short esters to fully clear.

You're sounding like a junkie
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i guess i am a "junkie" then lol....

How do the pros do it? surely they don't have time on/time off.... they must blast and cruise? or at least very small amount of time off..
 
Pros blast stupid amounts of juice year round with GH and slin on top of that

You realize it costs over 100 grand a year for most pro's AAS and supplement regiments? that doesn't even include food....
 
Couple veterans here asked for pics, maybe you should post the so they can have a better idea on what advice to give you... Chances are it'll be the same though.
 
If I am wrong I will eat my words and tell you that you have what it takes.

But a lot of young guys get delusions of grandeur when they start getting a little mass, and they think they're going to be the next Jay Cutler.


Fact is, you can run all the juice you want, but if you don't have the genetics, forget it.
 
RyanGreg said:
i used all fast esters test prop, mast, tren ace, winny would it still take 5-6 weeks??

I have no problem making gains without juice... but i want to make the best gains possible....thats why i want to do next cycle asap....
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google pct calculator and look how long it takes even short esters to clear the body. even if you have small remnants leftover it will continue to suppress you. the bodies HPTA needs to recognize there are no esters lingering to pick up. it doesn't start picking up until esters are cleared.

short esters still take about 2-3 weeks depending on what it is. long esters take 4-6 weeks.. EQ for example has an even longer ester than decaonate, so it will linger for quite a while

you don't just stop injecting and magically the juice dissapears out of your system.. you have a lot to learn about esters, half lives etc. stick around and you will leran it all trust me
 
stevesmi said:
bad idea unless you have a trust fund and are set for life.

in 3 years what happens if you decide to make a career change or your wife divorces you and now you owe 18 years of child support. your priorities might change my friend and then what? whats your plan to come off of this? i would have one.

i've seen people have kids and their life totally changes or get married. its all about the wifey and the kid after that. your wife might tell you one day i want you to spend more time with me and less on the gym and steroids. then what? so unless you are already married and your wife is cool with all this its something else to think about! you just not gonna have sex anymore or date? or how bout if you get into a car accident or any injury at the gym where the doc tells you that you have to stay out of the gym for months? then what? you gonna continue juicing and working out when you are injured? shit happens in life man that is unexpected. there is gonna be times when you just don't go to the gym for weeks or months. especially guys your age who are just starting out in life, even if you have a good career your boss could come to you one day and say you are fired or your company could go under.

i would read my thread from 2 weeks ago and how i bridged using natty supps from mr supps and NTBM and how i was able to not only retain my gains but also look amazing. and then i would look into SARM's after that. you have more options than just staying on for life. i made that thread so that guys like you would learn that you don't have to stay on juice all year to keep gains, and yet still people refuse to listen.
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honest to god now.... i couldnt have said this any better... you just said it all man...

bro trust me... at 29 now, i would love to blast and cruise... always be superman... but i have a girl and kid, and like my man steve said... shit changes bro.. u dont have as much time for it... be a better friend to yourself and make that life long commitment when your more than 25% of the way through this game we call life.. and id add in everything else steve said but its already been said... id STRONGLY advise you against this at your age. way too many variables at this point in your life... everything and anything is subject to change.
i have a very good friend, in the pro circuit, and is on trt at i think hes 26 or 27 now... he would love to come off, but he knows his chances of recovery at this point are slim to none aside from feeling like shit during that period of off time. granted hes pro, and is always on and stacking ect. his cycles add up to almost 50,000.00 a year. there is so much more to it than u think heading where u wanna go.
if your responsible enough to make that decision on your own, be responsible enough to wait and re visit that thought in a year. for now cycle.. there are so many better options at 24.
my friendly advice.
 
bigbassturd said:
If I am wrong I will eat my words and tell you that you have what it takes.

But a lot of young guys get delusions of grandeur when they start getting a little mass, and they think they're going to be the next Jay Cutler.


Fact is, you can run all the juice you want, but if you don't have the genetics, forget it.
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Hahaha.....yep pretty much!
 
Fine, I will flame

Youre a fucking idiot junkie addict for wanting to shackle yourself to a needle for life
 
bigbassturd said:
If I am wrong I will eat my words and tell you that you have what it takes.

But a lot of young guys get delusions of grandeur when they start getting a little mass, and they think they're going to be the next Jay Cutler.


Fact is, you can run all the juice you want, but if you don't have the genetics, forget it.
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I have been competing as a bodybuilder for the last 3 years..... I'm not just a gym bro with a few cycles under my belt...bodybuiliding is what i do and i really want to make a name for myself now.
 
noodles1010 said:
honest to god now.... i couldnt have said this any better... you just said it all man...

bro trust me... at 29 now, i would love to blast and cruise... always be superman... but i have a girl and kid, and like my man steve said... shit changes bro.. u dont have as much time for it... be a better friend to yourself and make that life long commitment when your more than 25% of the way through this game we call life.. and id add in everything else steve said but its already been said... id STRONGLY advise you against this at your age. way too many variables at this point in your life... everything and anything is subject to change.
i have a very good friend, in the pro circuit, and is on trt at i think hes 26 or 27 now... he would love to come off, but he knows his chances of recovery at this point are slim to none aside from feeling like shit during that period of off time. granted hes pro, and is always on and stacking ect. his cycles add up to almost 50,000.00 a year. there is so much more to it than u think heading where u wanna go.
if your responsible enough to make that decision on your own, be responsible enough to wait and re visit that thought in a year. for now cycle.. there are so many better options at 24.
my friendly advice.
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thanks for the post.. the money is no concern thats fine.. but this is truly what i want.
 
^^^ i'm asking you a serious question. lets say you do this. 3 years from now if something happens and you want to take a break from bodybuilding then what? whats your plan then?

also how is money not a concern? you are 24.. got a trust fund or something? bodybuilding is an expensive hobby and you don't get much of anything back from it financially.. 95% of actors need a 2nd job, 95% of bodybuilders need a 2nd job too. you think you are gonna make a living in bodybuilding? not likely
 
ryan... before you post up more excuses, explanations, visions, plans ect ect... we gotta see some pics of where youre at. in all due respect you might not even be close to sort of ready... then again maybe u are... how can we tell? post a pic... i believe half of what i read and all of what i can see.
 
I know of a total of maybe 3 people on this site who have what it takes.

Let's see if you are one bro
 
stevesmi said:
^^^ i'm asking you a serious question. lets say you do this. 3 years from now if something happens and you want to take a break from bodybuilding then what? whats your plan then?

also how is money not a concern? you are 24.. got a trust fund or something? bodybuilding is an expensive hobby and you don't get much of anything back from it financially.. 95% of actors need a 2nd job, 95% of bodybuilders need a 2nd job too. you think you are gonna make a living in bodybuilding? not likely
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well if something was to happen i would take a break but continue to be on a cruise until i was able to start training again.

i am from a very wealthy family lets just leave the money issue there... but i seriously have no concern about the money side of it.........i wanted to do GH but i was told its not that good as what its claimed to be?

this is my only job bodybuilding i don't work.
 
im not posting pics because of my unique tattoos and all the photo shoots i have done over the years.................. i want to remain unknown for obvious reasons.
 
well even your wealthy family can go broke.
ever think about an injury? what happens if you have a random injury that leaves you in a hospital bed for a couple weeks, let alone months?
you gonna have someone come sneak you some juice? people cruise on longer esters for those variable reasons as well. ED juicing...what if you go on vacation? what if your source runs dry?

NOBODY will believe you until you post pics. I am saying you are a cop right here and now.
most blatently obvious one i have ever seen.

post pics without your head if your scared of people seeing you. pics from your last show. or in fact what was your last bodybuilding show? what was the one before that?
Are you going to nationals this year? Where are they?

what was your strategy going into your last show? did you do something wrong, that why you didn't win?
I have a friend who was top 5 at nationals last year and he cycles on and off. He has added other drugs since then, but stil gets on and off properly, and I can in fact tell that it is not the reason he is winning shows. it is not because he stays on or off. it is because of his hard work and his genetics. not because of drugs...they are only the means, they are not the end.
 
you can post pics not showing your tatoos. do you have tats on your abs? legs? back? shit go on PAINT and cover up the tats.....
 
RyanGreg said:
well if something was to happen i would take a break but continue to be on a cruise until i was able to start training again.

i am from a very wealthy family lets just leave the money issue there... but i seriously have no concern about the money side of it.........i wanted to do GH but i was told its not that good as what its claimed to be?

this is my only job bodybuilding i don't work.
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Are you fucking serious? Try running 6 or 8 iu/day and for 6 months and see what happens
 
ballslee said:
well even your wealthy family can go broke.
ever think about an injury? what happens if you have a random injury that leaves you in a hospital bed for a couple weeks, let alone months?
you gonna have someone come sneak you some juice? people cruise on longer esters for those variable reasons as well. ED juicing...what if you go on vacation? what if your source runs dry?

NOBODY will believe you until you post pics. I am saying you are a cop right here and now.
most blatently obvious one i have ever seen.

post pics without your head if your scared of people seeing you. pics from your last show. or in fact what was your last bodybuilding show? what was the one before that?
Are you going to nationals this year? Where are they?

what was your strategy going into your last show? did you do something wrong, that why you didn't win?
I have a friend who was top 5 at nationals last year and he cycles on and off. He has added other drugs since then, but stil gets on and off properly, and I can in fact tell that it is not the reason he is winning shows. it is not because he stays on or off. it is because of his hard work and his genetics. not because of drugs...they are only the means, they are not the end.
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i lost simply because the dude had a better physique than me i admit that.... he was 36 I'm 24 i have a lot more years under him and next time I'm no going to place 2nd.
 
ballslee said:
you can post pics not showing your tatoos. do you have tats on your abs? legs? back? shit go on PAINT and cover up the tats.....
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im not going to paint up myself just to take a pic for you lol........... I'm not here to prove anything to you guys.. you either believe me or you don't but either way I'm looking for advice/help thats all.
 
-SD- said:
Are you fucking serious? Try running 6 or 8 iu/day and for 6 months and see what happens
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LOL ya dude, from his other dumb ass thread that is what he got from it. but now we know he is rick as fuck, and doesn't work. So ya, I would certainly be taking GH and Slin, and every other chemical i could get my hands on since money is no issue.

but hes scared.............


and just so you know RyanGreg, we have constantly been being patient with you. Giving you reasons for several things to do, etc and you don't take the advice. This is now like the 5th thread you have made asking these questions, and you keep getting the same answers.

do the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results - the definition of crazy

people are giving you good, correct answers. You did one smart thing and made an account here. Now do another, and take people's advice.

if you want a personalized plan, I'd be more than happy to help you and lay out exactly what you should run for the next year. don't post your pics, just send one to me.......i'll come back here and say you do have what it takes to make it to the pros, and then i will still tell you not to go blast and cruise. Because one thing that there is an advantage here vs any other person is that we vastly know compounds. We know them so much that we are 'experts' in compounds that are just being released, and can really completely change the fold of bodybuilding with them. Don't believe me?

Run a triple SARMS stack right now. you say you have PCT'd and are off juice.....well then run that. Search on here for Dylan's triple sarms stack and run it. bet you will be surprised. then we can show you a protocol that it 'seems' like you never come off. Especially if you are running growth year round.
 
RyanGreg said:
would a better option be to go on GH 6iu/day for life and do cycles while on the GH instead of blasting and cruising?
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If money is no concern, yes
except if you arent ever going off then use 3-4 iu/day during the cruises and 6 on blasts.

Jesus man you really need to research and think this out if you are making decisions to go on substances for life in such a casual manner, instead of polling a bunch of juiceheads on a Friday afternoon.
The sides from HGH are permanent in case you didnt know.
 
RyanGreg said:
i lost simply because the dude had a better physique than me i admit that.... he was 36 I'm 24 i have a lot more years under him and next time I'm no going to place 2nd.
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Hes also got 12 years more experience and time to figure things out then you do.
 
ballslee said:
LOL ya dude, from his other dumb ass thread that is what he got from it. but now we know he is rick as fuck, and doesn't work. So ya, I would certainly be taking GH and Slin, and every other chemical i could get my hands on since money is no issue.

but hes scared.............


and just so you know RyanGreg, we have constantly been being patient with you. Giving you reasons for several things to do, etc and you don't take the advice. This is now like the 5th thread you have made asking these questions, and you keep getting the same answers.

do the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results - the definition of crazy

people are giving you good, correct answers. You did one smart thing and made an account here. Now do another, and take people's advice.

if you want a personalized plan, I'd be more than happy to help you and lay out exactly what you should run for the next year. don't post your pics, just send one to me.......i'll come back here and say you do have what it takes to make it to the pros, and then i will still tell you not to go blast and cruise. Because one thing that there is an advantage here vs any other person is that we vastly know compounds. We know them so much that we are 'experts' in compounds that are just being released, and can really completely change the fold of bodybuilding with them. Don't believe me?

Run a triple SARMS stack right now. you say you have PCT'd and are off juice.....well then run that. Search on here for Dylan's triple sarms stack and run it. bet you will be surprised. then we can show you a protocol that it 'seems' like you never come off. Especially if you are running growth year round.
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i know and thank you all for making your posts i do appreciate it all..... i do take in and listen to your advice...this is why i started this thread in the first place. for advice .....

what would you suggest me to run for the next year then? would be great to see.

i have not finished my pct yet I'm currently in pct at the moment...

whats your thoughts on me running GH year around while doing cycles ontop of that how i have previously done? this a much better option than blasting and cruising?
 
-SD- said:
If money is no concern, yes
except if you arent ever going off then use 3-4 iu/day during the cruises and 6 on blasts.

Jesus man you really need to research and think this out if you are making decisions to go on substances for life in such a casual manner, instead of polling a bunch of juiceheads on a Friday afternoon.
The sides from HGH are permanent in case you didnt know.
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thanks for the posts Rob... i know i need to do my research thats why i started this thread to learn more and get peoples opinions on this.
 
RyanGreg said:
thanks for the posts Rob... i know i need to do my research thats why i started this thread to learn more and get peoples opinions on this.
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Yea but you have to have some working knowledge of all this stuff first because when you throw up a thread like this you are going to get lots of different answers depending on everyones background and situation. You need the research knowledge first so you can post here about specific questions instead of broad generalities
 
I like reading this thread....pretty comical. Won't post a pic for obviously reasons...ha, nobody gives a fuck if your juicing it up alittle bit...last time I checked all the pros do. And there pictures are fucking everywhere..l
 
well if you are so rich than you should buy Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman's PT's and have them personally train you. i find it hard to believe that you are that rich that you can't hire someone that has told you how much GH to use and can put together the perfect steroid stack for you molded to yourself. why are you even on this board ? everyone who has posted combined is probably still poorer than you from what you are saying. you could probably hire every vet on this board to fly out to where you are and personally train you and wipe your ass too.

hell hire me man, i will be your personal lapdog and take care of everything for you. motivate you, train with you, spot you, inject you, put together steroid stacks.. whatever you need I will do it. if you throw in more money and get us all a nice suite near a beach/pool I will bring you some hot chicks I know on top of it and you can have your way with them the whole time when you aren't training . i'm dead serious, PM me.
 
stevesmi said:
well if you are so rich than you should buy Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman's PT's and have them personally train you. i find it hard to believe that you are that rich that you can't hire someone that has told you how much GH to use and can put together the perfect steroid stack for you molded to yourself. why are you even on this board ? everyone who has posted combined is probably still poorer than you from what you are saying. you could probably hire every vet on this board to fly out to where you are and personally train you and wipe your ass too.

hell hire me man, i will be your personal lapdog and take care of everything for you. motivate you, train with you, spot you, inject you, put together steroid stacks.. whatever you need I will do it. if you throw in more money and get us all a nice suite near a beach/pool I will bring you some hot chicks I know on top of it and you can have your way with them the whole time when you aren't training . i'm dead serious, PM me.
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I wood dew it if i had the cash rob
 
stevesmi said:
well if you are so rich than you should buy Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman's PT's and have them personally train you. i find it hard to believe that you are that rich that you can't hire someone that has told you how much GH to use and can put together the perfect steroid stack for you molded to yourself. why are you even on this board ? everyone who has posted combined is probably still poorer than you from what you are saying. you could probably hire every vet on this board to fly out to where you are and personally train you and wipe your ass too.

hell hire me man, i will be your personal lapdog and take care of everything for you. motivate you, train with you, spot you, inject you, put together steroid stacks.. whatever you need I will do it. if you throw in more money and get us all a nice suite near a beach/pool I will bring you some hot chicks I know on top of it and you can have your way with them the whole time when you aren't training . i'm dead serious, PM me.
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Well shit, how much you charge again?!?! Lmao
 
stevesmi said:
well if you are so rich than you should buy Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman's PT's and have them personally train you. i find it hard to believe that you are that rich that you can't hire someone that has told you how much GH to use and can put together the perfect steroid stack for you molded to yourself. why are you even on this board ? everyone who has posted combined is probably still poorer than you from what you are saying. you could probably hire every vet on this board to fly out to where you are and personally train you and wipe your ass too.

hell hire me man, i will be your personal lapdog and take care of everything for you. motivate you, train with you, spot you, inject you, put together steroid stacks.. whatever you need I will do it. if you throw in more money and get us all a nice suite near a beach/pool I will bring you some hot chicks I know on top of it and you can have your way with them the whole time when you aren't training . i'm dead serious, PM me.
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i don't know anyone to hire about this stuff how do i find someone with knowledge?
 
Just run gh and cycle roids for now. Also take some time off from gh a well for your gland. If are that advanced though and is your dream and has been for a long time then go for it. Cruise at least on long ester test and could blast with long ester till there and using short esters as well for the blast.

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This is the stupidest thread i've seen in a long time.......Kid you don't know SHIT!



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