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deca_durabolin_

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Hey all...

I just started a cycle of deca ( I dont think it should even be called a cycle) .. I have some extra lying around and right now I'm dieting. I'm going to take 200 mg weekly for 10wks. I was wondering if anyone here has tried this low dosage alone and what were the results. I'm hoping this will help me maintain my muscle mass during my diet. Hopefully do more for me.


Please don't comment on this if you haven't tried it. I don't care how knowledgeable one is on this subject. Experience speaks better.
 
The low dose is probably not helping too much and it will shut down your natural production. I read someplace that even low dosages of deca can shut you down and it takes longer to recover. There is a chance that the low dose may hurt you more than it helps.
 
Hopefully nobody is stupid enough to bother. Do you need to be shot in the head to know its a bad experience?
 
My comment was in reference to you specifically asking for people who have done a 200mg deca only cycle while dieting (not a first cycle). I don't think somebody would have to have tried it to tell you why its not a good idea. The reason I don't like the idea is because 200mg isn't enough especially for someone who has used AAS before, but it is enough to shut you down HARD.

I would suggest going with clen/yohimburn if you are trying to diet down without losing much muscle mass. Kynoselen is another option that won't shut you down. 300mg of test would be infinitely better IMHO, but then again I've never tried deca nor am I going to in the future.
 
How can you have extra lying around if its your first cycle? Anyways if your going to do deca, throw in 250-375mg of test (cyp, enth, or sust) to keep the dick working. Without the test your cycle is shit, with it its solid. Also if your going to do AAS, have a clear goal in mind and follow plans to achieve that goal from start to finish. By this I mean if you want to bulk than bulk all the way. I don't see the need for AAS for "cutting" though.
 
I have extra lying around cause. .. well don't worry.... My buddy told me I can use since it will help me maintain muscle mass. This guy is an experienced lifter and AAS user. I trust him as well. I'm not using it to lose weight but just to maintain and possibly add some muscle.
 
I think 200 mgs/week of deca is a fine beginner cycle. After six weeks, hell start seeing good gains, prolly at least through week twelve.
 
add 250mg sustanon and you should be fine.
i wouldnt take deca alone!

but if you decide, after all, to take an all deca cycle, you should up the dose to 400mg.

you'll definitely need nolvadex and proviron.
bromo is a viable option too.
 
I got a friend that has been doing AS for almost 20 years and does a moderate dose deca cycle all the time. He loves the stuff by itself.
 
My first cycle was 200mgs/week of Deca and I loved it.

I'm sure there are some posts here from members that haven't even used Deca, and are more or less talking out of their asses. Be careful who you listen to.
 
Genarr, Its not talking out of your ass when you try to warn someone of possible adverse side effects that are known to happen to alot of people. Why would I try something that has given so many people problems? I'm sure many people have nothing but positive experiences with deca, however there are many more who have had bad experiences. Why not warn somebody of the possible problems? Thats the point of this board IMO. Peace.
 
My first cycle was 200mg/week of deca, and even went to 400mg for 2-3weeks mid-cycle. I wasn't really pleased with the results ...

-sk
 
Thank you all for your responses.

From all my research and talking to many people, it seems Deca is a win or lose situation. It may work wonders for one person and may do jack for another. I'm going to stick with the 200 mgs alone and see how that works. I will keep you all updated with my progress.

If anyone else wants to add any comments please feel free to do so.

genarr4, would mind sharing the results you achieved with it? Details please.
 
deca_durabolin_ said:
Hey all...

Please don't comment on this if you haven't tried it. I don't care how knowledgeable one is on this subject. Experience speaks better.
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I was going to write something constructive....but I guess not, since I have used it at 300 mg/week, not 200. :rolleyes:
 
jubei said:
Genarr, Its not talking out of your ass when you try to warn someone of possible adverse side effects that are known to happen to alot of people. Why would I try something that has given so many people problems? I'm sure many people have nothing but positive experiences with deca, however there are many more who have had bad experiences. Why not warn somebody of the possible problems? Thats the point of this board IMO. Peace.
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You come to a conclusion based on what you've heard and then lecture others ... :confused:

Deca is fine. 200mg/week is a good first cycle. He might have libido/erection problems around mid-cycle so that is why test would be worth adding. But obviously Deca will help him maintain muscle while dieting. That was his question.
 
Lecture others...more like look out for their best interests. It isn't going to affect me one way or another. A HUGE number of deca users get shitty sides why not let people know?
 
deca_durabolin_ said:
Terminator, please comment on the 300 mgs lol
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I hated it. It killed my sex drive for months even after the cessation of the drug. I will never use deca again, it took me so long to feel 'normal' after using it. The one good thing though was my sharp elbow pain went away (and stayed away)...
 
For all the idiots who talk trash...you don't have to personally try something to know its not good. How many trusted bros have to say deca caused bad sides before it should be brought up?
 
jubei I see your point but would you agree with me when I say deca is like any other aas in the sense that what works for one person may not work for another. All my bros that I know love the stuff.. Who knows maybe it's the brand or something......
 
I've never experienced ANY sides from deca besides decreased HPTA. It is the only steroid that does not impact your hairline or cause thinning. Even Anavar can shut you down so why, when deca shuts you down, is there so much hoopla. I wouldn't even bother reading a thread on a drug I never tried let alone try to answer the question. It's hilarious: a lot of the bad press deca gets lately is perpetutated by people who never tried it. :FRlol:
 
That is what I noticed.. I tried reading as much threads possible about deca before asking my question and most people don't even use the thing yet comment on how bad it is.

Who knows, the guys scared to try this drug maybe selling themselves short as it may do wonders for you.
 
BBkingpin, I've never read anything you posted that sounded so stupid. I'm not trying to flame you but why would you not bother reading a thread about a drug you haven't tried? Afraid you might learn from other people?

Reading and learning from others experiences is as much a part of learning as reading clinical trials and articles by physicians/scientists.
 
jubei said:
BBkingpin, I've never read anything you posted that sounded so stupid. I'm not trying to flame you but why would you not bother reading a thread about a drug you haven't tried? Afraid you might learn from other people?

NOT FROM THE ONES WHO NEVER TRIED IT! -- BBkingpin

Reading and learning from others experiences is as much a part of learning as reading clinical trials and articles by physicians/scientists.
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What I mean is if someone starts a thread asking about a drug I have never used I do not bother reading it because I cannot answer. Unless I am curious, why bother? If I have a question, I'll do a search or start my own thread. And I prefer that those who offer an answer know through experience what they are talking about. Give deca a try and then let us know. Or just let the ones who've tried it say whether it is good or bad and why. Is that "so stupid"?
 
Sorry, I may have jumped the gun a little bit. I understand where you are coming from, but I can say with certainty that deca causes problems in a number of users even though I am not one of them.
 
deca_durabolin_ said:
Thank you all for your responses.

From all my research and talking to many people, it seems Deca is a win or lose situation. It may work wonders for one person and may do jack for another. I'm going to stick with the 200 mgs alone and see how that works. I will keep you all updated with my progress.

If anyone else wants to add any comments please feel free to do so.

genarr4, would mind sharing the results you achieved with it? Details please.
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It was such a long time ago I'd have a hard time giving you exact results. But it made me bigger and much stronger and I believe I put on about 10lbs. Now that might not seem like alot, but for a person that had been training naturally for 8 years an extra 10lbs in just a few weeks is nothing short of amazing.
 
jubei said:
Lecture others...more like look out for their best interests. It isn't going to affect me one way or another. A HUGE number of deca users get shitty sides why not let people know?
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100% correct
 
Folks,
the deca side effects are relative. If someone does not care about their sex life much, then i think it is a good choice based on its androgenic/anabolic properties for gaining strength and muscle mass. Genarr mentioned he got 10lb of solid muscle which is sort of equivalent to 20lb of muscle/water gain while using Test (After losing all water ). Some people on this board tend to confuse water/muscle gain with solid muscle ( refer to example above). Some people also tend to jump on the bandwagon if something has been discussed many times by the majority without even having the experience nor the knowledge. Majority of people were saying Clomid is a must after a cycle and they would come up with numerous reasons to prove their argument. However, since Nelson stated otherwise, now people are changing their mind. From my experience, people on this board ( not all) are that sort.
 
Thanks for the responses guys please keep em coming.

Another question

I have some vials that expire in aug and my cycle is passed that. Are they safe to take? I was told it's okay and it's usually good for another year after the expiration date.
 
khavanin, deca makes many people hold water. I have never taken 3 grams of test a week but I still know its not a good idea. Go figure.
 
your decca that expires should be fine, and don't be suprised if it even works!!!

i have never been a huge fan of decca but, never an enemy either........decca has it's uses and it's negative points ( drug test detection, progesterone, etc......) but at reasonable dosages i believe it has it's certain positive points ( basically keep most gains after cycle even without h.c.g, clomid, etc...).........I DO BELIEVE YOU SHOULD RUN IT AT 400mgs AT LEAST THOUGH!!!

IF YOU DON'THAVE ENOUGH TO RUN AT THIS DOSAGE LEVEL WAIT!!! BUY MORE, AT LEAST 400mgs A WEEK...........~ARRATO~
~LATER~
 
looks like four people on this thread have used deca.2 pros and 2 cons,looks to me like a 50% chance on the sides.all else seems to be hearsay
 
Although I will never use deca and think it is garbage I'm not saying don't use it. All I'm saying is if you are going to use it, add some test.
 
jubei, your intentions are good but, do you see that last little paragraph?[

QUOTE]Originally posted by deca_durabolin_
Hey all...

I just started a cycle of deca ( I dont think it should even be called a cycle) .. I have some extra lying around and right now I'm dieting. I'm going to take 200 mg weekly for 10wks. I was wondering if anyone here has tried this low dosage alone and what were the results. I'm hoping this will help me maintain my muscle mass during my diet. Hopefully do more for me.


Please don't comment on this if you haven't tried it. I don't care how knowledgeable one is on this subject. Experience speaks better. [/QUOTE]
 
everyone has a drug that they either hate or love. Go on to other boards and deca is still praised as on of the best AAS. Some hate test, some hate fina...while I love both, especially fina. But many get sides from fina and/or test. I'm on 400mg/ week of Deca now, haven't noticed ANY sides..maybe post cycle I will, who knows.

I've learned to accept that their are tons of different opinions out there regarding AAS..but these are from others personal experiences and who knows what to believe. Deca has been used by many for years without major problems. Why is deca so often faked? Because it still is the most widely used AAS around. IMO...use a moderate dose with ANY AAS when it's your first couple of times..run test with EVERY cycle, unless for competition purposes you can't. Have a solid post cycle recovery in place and go for it.
Here are the major complaints of deca

1. Shuts you down Hard...solution... run test at least 3-4 weeks longer than deca, use HCG as needed.
2. Shuts down your sex drive....run test..how simple can that be? even 200mg/week would do the trick and have almost NO sides
3. Progesterone sides... IMO rarely, if ever happen. Just use a moderate dose. 2mg per pound of body weight is considered to be effective and safe.
 
People on this and other boards or people whom you know? I know people (personal friends) whom have got their wives/ girlfriends pregnant on deca. I'm not saying it's not harsh on your HPTA...but, I don't believe all the hype that it's as bad as people..at least on this board make out to be..especially when they've never run it.
 
I spoke to another person on the internet and he told me he ran 150 mgs of deca for 12 weeks and gained 20 pounds and noticed no side effects. He may be lying but I don't see the reason why.

I also know a buddy who is running 400mg of deca weekly right now and has been on it for 6 weeks and noticed no sides at all. Who knows how it will be after the 6 weeks but I think 6 weeks is good enough time to notice how it will effect you. Another buddy has been using deca along with other aas (never tried test though) for the past 5 years and hasn't noticed any sides. Again maybe it's the brand people are using (vet shit) but the stuff we have around where I live is real.

Also, anyone else care to comment on the expiration of the deca??

Thank you.
 
My first bulking cycle was 250 mg of sust/200 mg of deca a week, and I blew up. A couple cycles later I tried 600 mg of deca alone, and my sides were much higher than the first cycle. Actually, I've run 600 mg of test a week, alone, and had fewer sides. The results from the deca cycle? Well who knows, on my 7th week I quite using it, switched to test/fina, and sold the rest of my deca to a friend. I didn't see any change in strength or lbm gains, after 7 weeks though I did put on alot of water, and had trouble getting an erections sometimes, and couldn't have an orgasim even when I did have sex. I'm really not a deca fan, unless it is at a low dose and stacked with something more potent. I don't recomend my frist cycle now for newbies, rather I would suggest using eq over deca. In my opinion (yes, we are all entitled to them), eq is a more effective compound, with no apparent side effects (for me at least).
 
End results? I gained 50 ibs (alot of it fat and water because I ate everything) and added 90 ibs to my bench. Could do 405 for 4 reps, instead of 315 for 4. I consider that to be blowing up.
 
50 lbs. Holy shit thats alot of weight. How much muscle did you keep though, couldn't have been more than 20-25 lbs. Still great progress. Funny how it worked so well when you added test. Hmm, who suggested that and was then criticized?? Hmm.
 
jubei said:
50 lbs. Holy shit thats alot of weight. How much muscle did you keep though, couldn't have been more than 20-25 lbs. Still great progress. Funny how it worked so well when you added test. Hmm, who suggested that and was then criticized?? Hmm.
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LOL I know


Yeah man 50 lbs is huge what did you keep?
Got the same cycle on the way in the mail with the addition of dbol
 
BBkingpin said:


You come to a conclusion based on what you've heard and then lecture others ... :confused:

Deca is fine. 200mg/week is a good first cycle. He might have libido/erection problems around mid-cycle so that is why test would be worth adding. But obviously Deca will help him maintain muscle while dieting. That was his question.
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JUBEI, you weren't criticized for telling him to add test if he insisted on using deca, but rather for telling him deca was not worth it because of sides when you never tried deca yourself.
 
Oh, I meant deca by itself.
 
I have tried it and would not do it again. If you do then also run PROVIRON. That is if you are so against test. (which would be dumb)
 
I am currently running a low dose Deca/Test/Proviron/Nolvadex and Clen/NYC to help maintain LBM while dieting and doing a shitload of cardio. Friends and gym buddies are asking me what I am on they swear I am on winny, just tell them my program of low carbs, no dairy, low salt intake, 2.0 gallons h20 and NO PARTYING... about that time their eyes glaze over and if they are still listening will tell them my cycle. The main thing is diet/training/rest, I like Deca while dieting over EQ. EQ/Clen turned me into a eating machine. If you aren't looking to blow up, I think you should be fine on 200mg a week. But would recommend running it with low dose test. I like test prop/proviron... kicks in quick, can get by on relatively low dosages, great for labido and you can run it a couple of weeks after your last injection of deca right up to post cycle.
 
Since it is my first cycle I really don't want to inject anything else. Is there anything herbal I can take?? Sure it probably won't do much but I can always try if my dick don't rise to the occasion.
 
Understand it is your first cycle, but test really should be a base for all cycles even your first cycle. Just dont get crazy on the dosage and have nolvadex on hand. Proviron will also help and is oral, for labido enhancing effects you need 50-100mg daily. The only problem is it can do a number on your hairline if you are proned to mpb. Hell, I am not proned to mpb but can definitely tell it has lightened by thick head of hair.

As far as herbal, I have taken Yohimbine and it helps for a raging wood. I have taken both Yohimbine HCL and Yohimbe extract. Personally, I thought the Yohimbe extract worked better for wood... my entire body would get flush like I had a tan along with my raging hard on. But you may not have any problems with low dosages, well maybe not until later in your cycle. Just dont let it get in your head or you will definetly have problems when it comes time to perform.
 
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