Deca Winny Depot cycle..sorry newbie

[Mr.X]

Swolk I looked for an hour, couldnt find this exact cycle. I took enanthate 2 years ago and M1t about 3 months ago. My goal is to bulk but also cut with the winny. Does winny help cut mid section, sides and back? Im 5 9, 162lbs(not a solid 162)..max bench 280 etc I really appreciate the help and info you guys can give me. Thanks alot.

Can you post your diet for us please, and your full goals in detail. Remember, AS is just an aid, 70-80% of what you look like is your diet.

 

[iHulk]

bump..anyone else got any suggestions on what i should run with? Thanks

My first 4 cycles were nothing but Test. TEST TEST TEST and nothing else.
run a-dex with 500mg Test-E

Arimidex is for trimming the bloat. Keeps water retention down. If you're diet is in check (most important thing!) then maybe add the winny. That all depends of course.

Sooooo much info here, its almost overload but stay on the boards and read the shit outta everything. Don't be a afraid to ask questions like you did. Man I get so much help here its ridiculous. GO SOX!!!

 

[nok]

is winstrol, stanazol??

 

[Mr.X]

is winstrol, stanazol??

WINSTROL = stanazolol

 

[iHulk]

is winstrol, stanazol??

read this whole thing dude:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=441371

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[SwolK]

I think you are doing fine bro. Don't worry about Swolk. You do however need to research that cycle a little more. I will definitely give him that. THere is no such thing as enough research. YOu are starting off well by asking the questions but I think you should change that cycle up a bit. If you are only 162 lbs @ 5'9 you can easily get up to about 190 or 200 naturally with good diet and technique.

If you absoloutely have to take the gear why not jump on a bread and butter cycle like Dbol and Deca or Maybe Dbol and Sust. You can gain an easy 20-30lbs off of that at the right dosages with good dieting. You have to be wary of the water retention but as I said before its a good starter cycle. Let me know what you think.

I was not flaming him, just telling him to keep reading and researching.

anyway,
IMO a test only cycle is the way to go for a beginner. He can achieve the hard look with it, it depends on his diet, training...thats why I asked him for more info.

That said,
my very first cycle was before I found this board. It was the same as Scout, Winny only. I know many do not recommend a winny only cycle, but I got shreaded on it, because of my diet and cardio. But, if he wants to bulk this is not a great option. What ever you do, make sure you have PCT in check.
Good luck

 

[silver_shadow]

Thanks again bro I really appreciate. What you said sounds good but Im looking for the hard look and I was told that winny can help cut up my mid section as well. You obviously know a lot more than me so now I'm a little confused on what to do..haha..let me know

you have a big gut at 162? bro, i think you need to learn alot more about diet first before doing another cycle. oh and how could i forget... you've done a test e cycle and your at 162? again diet... didn't want to sound too preachy but this is just too obvious.

 

[SwolK]

oh yea forgot to mention:
Winny will not make you loose fat around around your mid section. diet and cardio will make you loose weight around your mid section

 

[BoSox]

I was not flaming him, just telling him to keep reading and researching.

anyway,
IMO a test only cycle is the way to go for a beginner. He can achieve the hard look with it, it depends on his diet, training...thats why I asked him for more info.

That said,
my very first cycle was before I found this board. It was the same as Scout, Winny only. I know many do not recommend a winny only cycle, but I got shreaded on it, because of my diet and cardio. But, if he wants to bulk this is not a great option. What ever you do, make sure you have PCT in check.
Good luck

Thanks for responding man, in no way did I think you were flaming. I was just explaining how frustrating it is because I spend 2-3 hours a day researching and until I came upon this site I didnt really make any progress. I have some more questions but not sure how or where to ask them, so maybe I could email you or something if you have time. Thanks anyways bro.

 

[iHulk]

Thanks for responding man, in no way did I think you were flaming. I was just explaining how frustrating it is because I spend 2-3 hours a day researching and until I came upon this site I didnt really make any progress. I have some more questions but not sure how or where to ask them, so maybe I could email you or something if you have time. Thanks anyways bro.

spit it out. ask away.