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kingbigdaddy
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I remember reading somewhere that low doses of deca 100-200mg a week can actually improve sex drive? Along with the joint benefits.
Is this true?
Is this true?
Deca RAISE libido?
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Para_Shoot
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Your better off taking 50mg of tren enanthate a week. That will improve sex drive like no other because of it's powerfull androgenic effect. I'm on that along with 50mg of test enanthate a week as HRT and it's working like a champ.
kingbigdaddy
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Thats nothing but bro knowledge and very untrue.
As deca will suppress endogenous testosterone, it WILL NOT suppress exogenous testosterone.
Therefore, one could take 200mg of test and 300-400mg of deca and be fine. Most of people who take Deca go into a mental state about deca dick..
kingbigdaddy
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Never said deca would suppress exo test.
One could take no test and 1g of deca a week too and some will be fine on that, others will suffer big time.
Many will be fine on half as much exo test as deca as well, but many others will not. The safe bet, if you dont know how you respond to deca is to take more test than deca.
Your asking for advice on a topic that varies greatly from person to person and looking for how its going to affect you but no one can tell you that. If you want to be a guinea pig and test no/low exo test with double the deca dose go for it and when your done let us know how it goes. Your experience wont necessarily apply to anyone else but Id still like to hear how you fare.
And on an aside, its not purely "bro knowledge" but empirical knowledge gained and followed by many HRT clinics.
Para_Shoot
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It's only 50mg a week. Do you think that will make your hair fall out? It's far better than DECA for what you want to do.
kingbigdaddy
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That might be the rule of thumb and we both know its mostly the rise in prolactin that kills the sex drive in 19-nors. And for someone with a very high prolactin level due to a 19-nor, a raise in testosterone wont necesarilly help the problem.
Dostinex or Prami would be used to lower the prolactin levels to fix the problem.
Im not trying to argue with you, just showing you a point lol.
Regardless im not looking to take a high dose, like i said 100-200(MAX) if that, hell maybe even 150. As the dose is low, i would provide maintenance level of anabolic.
Yet i dont need a FLOP dick lol. And i am scared to run test due to the High DHT conversion.
And honestly dude, i dont know. I ran a very short cycle (stopped due to shedding) of Test Prop and Tren. Ive ran tren in the past at high doses with no problems. Same with test, but idk for some reason now its making me shed.
This is why exo test is a good idea. Due to the half life of deca and how hard it shuts you down, if you run deca only and find out you got flop dick you may have to deal with it for a good 4-8 weeks.
200mg/wk test should put you at high end of normal lab range(125mg/wk mid normal range) so DHT conversion shouldnt be much of a concern.
kingbigdaddy
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So Could i run 100mg test and 100mg deca and be ok with hair?
Id use prop for the test. 25mg eod. So if it is the test that causes me to shed ill know and it will be out of my system faster.
But in all a low dose T and Deca should not cause shedding?
I am taking Toco-8 and using Nizoral Shampoo. Along with a little saw palmetto extract supplementation (Not that, thats a big help) but yeah.
Any idea what your natural T levels are at? The reason I ask is because your gonna be shut down from the deca and in my mind having at least a healthy amount of T is a good thing so I wouldnt want to take an exo T dose that is going to give you blood levels that are significantly less than your normal test if that makes sense.
There isnt a ton of data on what dose of exo test equates to for total test and of course labs vary on what they consider normal range, most are around 300ng/dl on the low end with 900 to 1100ng/dl on the high end. 125mg according to one study put subjects at around 570ng/dl where as 300mg put the subject at 1346ng/dl. Based on your other thread your pretty yound so chances are have a decent natty test level so you may find on 100mg a week you will actually have much lower total test than when you werent taking test.
Most folks have virtually no sides on doses at 200mg/wk and many have no sides except maybe mild oily skin on as much as 400mg/wk. Of course there are always guys who are uber susceptible to DHT but they usually know it because they have thinning hair in their early 20's.
There isnt a ton of data on what dose of exo test equates to for total test and of course labs vary on what they consider normal range, most are around 300ng/dl on the low end with 900 to 1100ng/dl on the high end. 125mg according to one study put subjects at around 570ng/dl where as 300mg put the subject at 1346ng/dl. Based on your other thread your pretty yound so chances are have a decent natty test level so you may find on 100mg a week you will actually have much lower total test than when you werent taking test.
Most folks have virtually no sides on doses at 200mg/wk and many have no sides except maybe mild oily skin on as much as 400mg/wk. Of course there are always guys who are uber susceptible to DHT but they usually know it because they have thinning hair in their early 20's.
kingbigdaddy
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I will get my blood levels checked.
Funny thing is ive ran tren alone and i was extremely horny, way more than test. Since tren and Deca are both 19-nor, wouldnt they have the same effect? Worst comes to worst i will have to run test with deca. Im just trying to find alternatives.. What about HCG and Deca?
Funny thing is ive ran tren alone and i was extremely horny, way more than test. Since tren and Deca are both 19-nor, wouldnt they have the same effect? Worst comes to worst i will have to run test with deca. Im just trying to find alternatives.. What about HCG and Deca?
I found tren to make me pretty horny as well. Ive never done deca alone but a lot of guys who have got the dreaded deca dick. Was it their dose or its chemical makeup? That I cant tell ya. Either way, im a big fan of having test in my system. Its one of the most prominent male hormone and taking exo AAS of any sort is going to affect natural production so with that in mind I like to have at least normal test levels when on any cycle. That means probably at least a 200mg/wk dose.
As for HCG, Im a fan of it on cycle, it gives a little natural test boost and keep the testes from total atrophy. A couple 250IU injections a week works wonders and isnt that hard on the wallet.
As for HCG, Im a fan of it on cycle, it gives a little natural test boost and keep the testes from total atrophy. A couple 250IU injections a week works wonders and isnt that hard on the wallet.
Ckrappraisal
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Yes Indeed.
Sure it can raise libido. So can estrogen. But that's not the best way to go about it. And the chances of it backfiring are far higher. Stay on deca long enough and the prog will get to a point that it'll not only cause problems , it'll make recovery more difficult. Not worth it IMO.
Yes, he knows it affects endo test and stated so above. He isnt the only one who has had increased sex drive on tren, it happens for many but then again your experience happens to many as well and what this has largely been about, the risk of deca dick when running a cycle with a high D to T ratio.
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lartinos
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Most likely it is only a temporary effect.
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