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Deca/Proviron/Winstrol/HCG/Clomid/Nolvadex/Porno Cycle

Do you personally prefer enanthate or cypionate?

I go with what is cheapest because I have not noticed a difference. I prefer to use either one (cyp or enanth) over prop or sust because I dont like EOD injections unless there is a serious benefit, which I have not found.
 
Pharmguy, by saying this, I mean that you will save your body from using gear that may not be needed. Sure it is a lot slower this way, but you will be really working for your muscle. I too think I could have put on more weight naturaly but hit the pins before getting there (so do as I say, not as I do, hahaha). The purpose of a first time user "should" be to break a plateau that cannot be broken easily naturaly. Hell even before my cycle that I am on now, I was slowly gaining every week naturally. I really should have held off, but I didnt, and somewhat regret it, but I wanted to squeeze this cycle in before I leave the country for a few months ( i know hypocritical). Still when I was younger and many of my friends were on the juice bandwagon, I held off from doing it, and relatively kept up with them being natural. I am glad that I waited until I was a little older.

Justy if/when you decide to cycle and are looking for a quality cycle, I would try something like this.

wk 1-10
Sust or Enanthate: 250/wk
(pharmguy, sust does not have to be injected EOD, once a week is fine).
EQ: 400/wk (frontload the first week)

Wk 5-10
Anavar: 35mgs/day
Enanthate: 250/wk
EQ: 400/wk

You could always swap the Anavar for winny at 50mgs/day, but I would keep the var is you can get it and afford it.

Mavy
 
(so do as I say, not as I do, hahaha).

haha. Well a good friend of mine says. Good decisions come from experience. experience comes from bad decisions.
I too am guilty of that do as i say not as I do. But I have wisened up a bit. ( still learning the hard way a lot though)
Your right about sust, but I guess to maximize the prop in it, EOD is better. But in the long run, I doubt it will make a difference.

Mavy, Why do you not think cyp is a good alternative, Just curious.
 
Looking back at these comments a few things come to mind.

1. Fina would be crazy for a beginner to AS. It has a harsh week on intro to the body and major chnages with attitude, stomache pains etc. These sides are ones I think should not be experienced by a first time user as its to hard on the body for a first cycle.

2. Prop as a first cycle to me would be a mistake. The verbage test is test is correct but my first cycle ever was sus 250. Taking cyp, or enth would be a cheaper alternative and one that for my last show I chose but sus 250 price aside is to me the best first cycle drug based on results with some d bol for 35-40 days and some equipose only because i chose it over deca.

3. For some reason my first experience with sus 250 was incredible and to this day never been matched. The redi jects a safe bet to avoid fakes rocked and back in the day cost about $7.00 a piece. So a week supply maxed for me was $21.00 but that was at the pharm.

4. Facts are you have gotten many diferent kinds of advise here and need to make choices. Adding a natural base should be the first choice to see the best results. My first show was natural and I trained natural for 3 years before going a different route. Even after taking the route I did simple cycles, low doises and hard work in the gym and on the diet.
 
Just Buy Nelson's Book - Seriously

Nelson Montana said:
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STEROID-LIKE GAINS? No shit!

Looking at that original post I'd forgotton how much I disagree with Anabolics 2000.

Look kid, forget all this crap. Learn how to train. Learn how to eat. Then after a year or so, do a couple of d-bol for a few weeks if you want a taste of what steroids are like.

All this crap...nolva, deca, HCG, yada, yada -- you'd think everyone's entering the fucking Olympia.

Diet and Cardio = Cuts and Less Fat.

The cycle you outlined is too complex to truly evaluate your body's reaction to each compound. You need to evaluate your body's reaction. Skip all the complex stuff and get you some sust...once you are ready.

You are atubborn and you will do what you want anyway, but you should wait...this is good advice.

Keep dieting, training, and reading becasue you are not ready grasshoppa.
 
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