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Deca Cycle

I was planning on Deca only. Currently I am 6'1" 220lbs, and don't think a stack is such a good idea. Do you disagree?
 
Depending on your goals. You want to gain or cut? What's your bf%?

It seems you dont want to gain too much more size, is that true?

I wouldnt recommend deca only. You can do it if you want, but I wouldnt.
 
I would like to gain about 15 pounds of lean mass. I don't want to swing up and then back down. In the past I have taken Sus250 with Equipose and was at one time as high as 245 solid. I retain at a weight for several months afterwards and then drop like a brick. I post cycle with clomid. What do you recommend? Should I stack with a test? What should be my post? I am all ears if you are willing to give the advice....
 
You probably lost your gains from that Sust/Eq cycle due to bad timing with the clomid. The long esters in the Sust probably were the culprit. Remember you also need to lay off a bit when coming off a cycle. You wanna keep stress to a minimum on your body. You have to keep the protein and food intake up.

Anyway, if you are looking to gain 15lbs of LBM there are a lot of options. Why are you set on using deca?

A good stack with some of the following would be good: winny, test, fina/tren, primo just to name a few. Test/Tren/Winny or Test/Winny/Primo or Test/Tren/Winny. Those would give you lean gains. With the Deca, you will gain some fat. Does it to me anyway, but I love Deca for mass gains.
 
I would stack.
Deca at 300-400mg/week for weeks 1-10
Test at 500mg/week for weeks 1-10
Clomid started 3 weeks after your last shot of Deca. With a good diet you will have no problems reaching your goals.

M18
 
I dont know if he minds gaining some fat/water from Deca/Test or is he trying to gain the most lean mass without a lot of fat/water gain.
 
I don't know, I met a Navy Seal years back that had a build alot like Roger Applewhite, which is how I would like to look. Anyway this guy said that he basically was on Deca a month, and then off a month. Besides it is apparently the best for you.... Advice is great thanks alot... I have no idea, what to do....
 
chayseme said:
I don't know, I met a Navy Seal years back that had a build alot like Roger Applewhite, which is how I would like to look. Anyway this guy said that he basically was on Deca a month, and then off a month. Besides it is apparently the best for you.... Advice is great thanks alot... I have no idea, what to do....

Sounds like a very stupid thing to me as Deca takes about 3-4 weeks to take effect then you would be stopping it one it gets good. Plus you would not have time to get your natural test going again in that month time period. IT MAKES NO SENCE

M18
 
You nailed it on the head, it is the fat/water retention that I am most concerned about. I train really hard and eat really well, and don't want to blow up like a balloon and then deflate like one.
 
chayseme said:
You nailed it on the head, it is the fat/water retention that I am most concerned about. I train really hard and eat really well, and don't want to blow up like a balloon and then deflate like one.
If you are not looking for water retention then ignore my other cycle and try this
Test at 200-250mg/week for weeks 1-10
Eq at 400mg/week for weeks 1-10
Winny at 50mg/Day for weeks 5-10
Clomid 3 weeks after your last shot of Eq

M18
 
What type of test? Sustenon? Eth? or Cyp? I am totally confused... Sounds like you guys know what I want to accomplish. What do you recommend?
 
chayseme said:
What type of test? Sustenon? Eth? or Cyp? I am totally confused... Sounds like you guys know what I want to accomplish. What do you recommend?

I would go with Cyp or Enanthate

M18
 
M18- Winny/EQ/test

Do you think that that this is the best cycle for lean mass and little or no fat/water retention?
 
listen to Mustang_18....

He's trying to help you.....He gave you a cycle and even threw in when to start your clomid....
 
Re: M18- Winny/EQ/test

chayseme said:
Do you think that that this is the best cycle for lean mass and little or no fat/water retention?

Fat gain depends on your diet not the gear and yes I think that is the test of choice. It should hold very little water weight at that dose and if you like you could throw in some Proviron at 25mg/day through out your cycle just to make sure.

M18
 
Yes, fat gain is mostly due to diet, however I must state that in my personal experience fat gain is more apparent with certain steroids. Dropping the deca is a good idea due to this.

Test/Eq/Winny is a decent cycle. You can go with that. I just have personal issues with Eq which there is no need to go into right here.

Good luck!
 
CONTRACTION said:
Yes, fat gain is mostly due to diet, however I must state that in my personal experience fat gain is more apparent with certain steroids. Dropping the deca is a good idea due to this.

Test/Eq/Winny is a decent cycle. You can go with that. I just have personal issues with Eq which there is no need to go into right here.

Good luck!

If you don't mind me asking, what is your prob with Eq ? I love the drug and would use it year round but I find it increases my anxiety far to much so I must stay away :(

M18
 
I dont want to start a long thread! Ha, ha!

It's the whole "horse steroid" thing. I understand the chemical makeup is close to dbol, but my mind blocks me from using it because the thought of it being for horses. It's silly, I know...

I have nothing against guys using it, but personally I just cant do it.
 
CONTRACTION said:
I dont want to start a long thread! Ha, ha!

It's the whole "horse steroid" thing. I understand the chemical makeup is close to dbol, but my mind blocks me from using it because the thought of it being for horses. It's silly, I know...

I have nothing against guys using it, but personally I just cant do it.

LOL It is really a great drug and besides the anxiety and the whole tail situation I had great results with it :FRlol:

M18
 
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