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DECA cycle

jamyers

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How good is a deca cycle for first time cycle? How about this deca-dick thing??? If it happens during cycle will the side effect go away? I would hate to be stuck with that problem? Also nolva and clomid? good to take for the deca cycle? And also would a winny to stack with good also???? And if so oral or inject version of winny?????? And finally how would you guys recommend taking the cycle?
 
Deca and winny is okay. Deca @ 2 ml per week and winny @ 1ml every other day worked pretty good for me. Take the inj winny works better than pills. Dont think you will need any anti estrogen on this though unless you are sensitive. Eat healthy and train hard.
 
jamyers said:
why test with? and not deca alone?


dude you are NOT ready to take roids. you dont even know the basics about steroids and yet you would take them.
take some time to read about steroid profiles and learn whats what.

reason why test should be taken along with deca is because deca WILL shut you natural test production,thus leaving your libido ...well,useless. using test will
make your libido work properly.

when you do your research you will understand why TEST MUST BE A BASE FOR ALL CYCLES.
 
creepS said:
when you do your research you will understand why TEST MUST BE A BASE FOR ALL CYCLES.

Creep is right. And if you want to learn the hard way, go ahead and use deca for your cycle. Come back to us when its finished, and tell us about your libido and erection problems, and how you crashed hard post cycle. We will then tell you, "we told u so". Test is best my friend.
 
From what I read for a newbe stacking is NOT an option. As a beginner one should start off using a single steroid. So why am I told to do stacking as a beginner? I am reading so much stuff online and even in different forums and I see soooooooooooo many different opinions its making me dizzy. One person tells me to do one thing and another tells me to do another. Very confusing. Also I see people online thats doing steroids argue about whats better. seems like to me it all depends on your own chemistry. I hear test is bad to take as a first cycle and causes more side effects than deca and then I hear visversa. I guess I'll just keep on reading till I find something or someone that has an open mind on cycles and understands "different cycles works for different people". I just want to hear what people do so I can learn from their expierence. I need to see what people do and I can research why it worked for them using a certain cycle. The reason why I asked about deca/winny is because I read about it and want to hear reviews on that stack for future refrence.
 
Jamyers;

If your going to use a single steroid, use test. If your going to stack, base your stack around test. Its that simple. The argument about stacking or not is a moot point if test is not incorporated. Personally, I would recommend a light stack for a first cycle. Your receptors are fresh, and you will respond very well. For example, Test enanthate at 500mg week for 10 weeks, with winny or anavar at 50mgs/day for the first 4 weeks would be a great cycle, and you will like the results.
 
From what I have read and other opinions test has lots of water retent and much of the gain can be lost. Is that true or does certain pct overcome the loss? I hear of many different ideas on how to use pct and other prevent methods during cycle. But It can be very confusing on what research material to depend on. I definitly would like to keep "most" my gains. I've also looked at comparison charts to see what is rated better in gains strength and so on and it seemed that test did not have a very good retention of muscle due to water. whats your input. Thats why I looked at deca.
 
jamyers said:
From what I have read and other opinions test has lots of water retent and much of the gain can be lost. Is that true or does certain pct overcome the loss? I hear of many different ideas on how to use pct and other prevent methods during cycle. But It can be very confusing on what research material to depend on. I definitly would like to keep "most" my gains. I've also looked at comparison charts to see what is rated better in gains strength and so on and it seemed that test did not have a very good retention of muscle due to water. whats your input. Thats why I looked at deca.

Bro, that comparison "chart" is probably 7 years old, and made by someone who is full of shit. Youll retain alot of muscle with test. Deca will bloat you MORE than test, and shut you down harder than test, making muscle retention more difficult. This is me telling you this from EXPERIENCE. Bro, your making things much more difficult than they need to be. What is your cycle goal? Why do u want to cycle? Tell us these things and we can help you decide on a proper cycle. If your confused about all this, then dont go trying to design a cycle yourself right now, youll fuck it up.
 
Well, I want to do a first time cycle but keep it within a reasonable amount dose. I do not want to megadose or anything like that. I want to gain at least 15 pounds of good solid quality muscle I can keep. I have calculated my calorie intake and I eat 5 times a day at 3200-3500 cal per day. I am 197lbs 5'11" 34yrs bodyfat 18-20% worked out off and on for about 5 years mostly off. I've been working out for 6 months solid and want to keep it going. I read a lot more and see that Test is a much better option for beginners. Would you recommend Test E or Cyp version? I am also afriad of sides like hair loss, bitch-tits, limp-D#$<---deca!. I read so much on different opinions it really makes me confused on what to do. Just as you said "the chart is 7 years old" I just need some good solid advice for a beginner. I bounce back and fourth on different steroids and then I hear the opposite from other people. I guess I just need some feedback from expierenced people like yourself.
 
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