Deca Alone on 8wk Cycle questions

[tempest2003]

okay well, as advised by 2think i think i am going to run deca alone as follows:

w1 300
w2 400
w3 400
w4 400
w5 400
w6 400
w7 300
w8 200

I just had a few questions, Ive done 1 cycle before with test eth and eq at 500mg a week each. I want to try and go the herbal way if possible as my diuretics by suing such things as lemon, and parsley this time, but im wondering how much bloat im gonna really put on running this cycle. im at about 185lbs right now, i have some yohm. DF on hand to keep the bloat down in my face, so that should help, but anyways, what do you guys think? Also, how much should I take into consideration the possibility of gyno? would clomid be enough to control it? i read about 1gm of clomid per 20mg of deca per week to keep estrogen at a level that will not cause gyno in most people, this sound right? how much weight do you think ill put on running this cycle on average? thanks in advance.
-temp

 

[Super Test 2004]

I think you would be ok, you might want to add some test in there as Deca will shut you down hard. Ever heard of Deca disk, it is true, trust me. I have done a deca only cycle.
I did not get a large amount of mass but did gain some quality muscle that stayed with me after the cycle.
Good luck.

 

[tempest2003]

will it shut me down post cycle? or while on? also how much test should counter this problem?

 

[Dial_tone]

Everybody who's ever had fina/deca is convinced what happened to them will happen to everyone else. This is not necessarily true. I had boners like steel girders on fina, and I suspect I'll have the same on Deca.
Nevertheless it would be wise to include one shot of test each week, say 200-250mg.

 

[Super Test 2004]

While I was on deca alone, I could get a bone no problem, I just could not finish. It impairs sexual function. I would run 250 mg's week to counter that. Everyone is different though. It will shut you down post cycle, for quite some time.

 

[tempest2003]

While I was on deca alone, I could get a bone no problem, I just could not finish. It impairs sexual function. I would run 250 mg's week to counter that. Everyone is different though. It will shut you down post cycle, for quite some time.

about how long am i looking at providing i do a proper PCT?

 

[tempest2003]

^^^

 

[Super Test 2004]

It is different for everyone. I would honestly estimate around
3 months, maybe less.

 

[buckwheat1]

Loss of libido and HPTA inhibition/shutdown are two different things.

Deca typically does not support the libido. It is very anabolic and a low androgenic compound. Taking test may help during the cycle to keep libido up because test and DHT are androgenic and support the libido.

But taking test during the cycle will not help or prevent you from being shutdown. Your HPTA is not less inhibited by adding test. In fact, adding more androgens may cause more inhibition.


Deca inhibition is caused by progesterone/prolactin as far as I know. Deca also has a long half life. So you must wait for the Deca and the progesterone/prolactin to leave the body before recovery can start.

This is why I suggest running Deca for only a portion of the cycle and then finishing off the rest of the cycle with something else.

My next cycle will be 6 weeks of NPP followed by 6 weeks of EQ.
NPP is a fast acting version, so shortly after the last shot of NPP, progesterone/prolactin will not be influencing my HPTA.

I will still have androgens and estrogen that will inhibit the HPTA but I believe the do so less aggressively and are easier to recovery from.

I will also use a-dex to lower estrogen levels at the very end of the cycle. Once again removing another source of inhibition. Lastly, the androgens will dissipate over the course of a few weeks and full recovery and pct can start.

 

[Little Rage]

tempest:
There will be a loss of libido post cycle. The tapering and PCT will limit the time to a few weeks to a month.

If you are worried about a loss of libirdo pick up some proviron unless you want to actually add test to the mix. otherwise 125mg of test a week will suffice.

 

[Dial_tone]

Loss of libido and HPTA inhibition/shutdown are two different things.

Deca typically does not support the libido. It is very anabolic and a low androgenic compound. Taking test may help during the cycle to keep libido up because test and DHT are androgenic and support the libido.

But taking test during the cycle will not help or prevent you from being shutdown. Your HPTA is not less inhibited by adding test. In fact, adding more androgens may cause more inhibition.


Deca inhibition is caused by progesterone/prolactin as far as I know. Deca also has a long half life. So you must wait for the Deca and the progesterone/prolactin to leave the body before recovery can start.

 

[jh1]

Take some dostinex, kills the prolactin issue.

Makes momma happy....

 

[eviction]

Everybody who's ever had fina/deca is convinced what happened to them will happen to everyone else. This is not necessarily true. I had boners like steel girders on fina, and I suspect I'll have the same on Deca.
Nevertheless it would be wise to include one shot of test each week, say 200-250mg.

i got the steel girder wood on NPP, but i still cant get off damnit... i tried jerkin it last nite to no avail.. just steel hard-ons... somebody shoot me

 

[rippednick]

I have been taking deca for 10 weeks now at 300mg and my dick works as good as always, you dont need to take any clomid. I even started fina at week 6 for 50mg eod, both at way to low of a dosage to shut me down. I picked up prop at 50mg eod at week 8 because im out of deca now and dont feel like getting off the juice quite yet, as for gains, they have all been solid, no bloat, weeks 1-5 i only gained 10lb, weeks 5-10 iv gained 12 more. Acne hasnt been to bad, it has had its spurts but they come and go. Strength has gone through the roof but that was probably the fina kicking in. thats my 2 cents

 

[Mythicalbeing]

I agree with Dial_tone....my shit is rock hard all the time on fina.