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Deca @ 900mg/wk???

lifthard2005 said:
ok, final decision is this:

wk 1-16 test e @ 1500mg/wk
wk 1-12 deca @ 600mg/wk
wk 1-16 EQ @ 1200mg/wk
wk 1-4, 9-12 Dbol @ 100mg ed
wk 17-21 prop @ 100mg eod (or 50mg ed)
wk 17-21 tren a @ 100mg eod (or 50mg ed)
wk 17-21 masteron @ 100mg eod (or 50mg ed)
wk 17-21 winstrol @ 150mg ed
wk 1-21 AIFM as needed

* Nolva on hand (yes i am aware not to use it with a 19-nor)
* Dostinex on hand as well for prolactin surges

PCT:

wk 21 HCG @ 500iu for 10 days
wk 22 nolva @ 40mg ed
wk 23 nolva @ 30mg ed
wk 24 Nolva @ 20mg ed
wk 22-24 Clomid @ 50mg ed
wk 21-24 Tribulus (for libido)

Couple questions for you bros.

1. Would you use Test E or Test Cyp in this cycle?
2. Would you shot ED for the last 5 weeks, or keep it at EOD?
3. Will AIFM be strong enough as the AI of choice, or should I get some Letro?
4. Would you keep the Dbol as is, or change it out for Anadrol @ 150mg ED?
5. What would you change, if anything, for my PCT since this is a very high, and long cycle?

You guys rock.....I appreciate everyone taking time to help me out here. I will definatley take photos, probably every 3 weeks during as well as a log for this cycle. Feel free to PM me with any questions or comments!!

LIFTHARD!

Looks better bro. Trust me 1500 is plenty of test. My $.02 on your Q's:

1. Cyp vs E. Looking at a difference of one carbon atom in the ester. Id go with whatever you can get cheaper (but most enan and cyp I've seen is the same price, unless you have a hook-up)
2. I'd go ED only because I prefer the tren ED. Makes a world of difference vs EOD for me. Also you'll have less volume cc-wise ED than you would EOD, which will allow you to use smaller muscles for inj. sites.
3. I would NOT use Letro. It will destroy your libido. I'd go with AIFM or aromasin. I use aromasin because I personally have great results on it, it doesnt touch my libido, and it has been shown to actually improve your lipid profile. Never tried AIFM personally but there's so much positive feedback on here you probably can't go wrong either way.
4. Dbol vs Drol all depends on what success you've had with each in the past. Drol works great for me but makes me feel like shit. They'll probably both puff you out a bit, but like I said, go with what works better for you. Dbol always made me feel like I'm on top of the world, but so will 1500 of test lol. I guess if I had to choose I'd take the dbol.
5. As far as PCT the only thing I'd change is to stretch it out over 6 weeks to be safe. Also if you feel like you're starting to drag ass, hop on some IGF-1. It works wonderfully in PCT, especially since you need to keep your cals up to retain the muscle and you can eat all the carbs in sight without putting on fat.

Best of luck bud. Keep us all posted.
 
cool, thanks guys......i will probably do the ed shots at half the dose to keep it steady...deca will be ran for 12 weeks at 600mg/wk.
 
i liked cyp over enanth, but as people have said too, enanth felt "cleaner" to me, but cyp gave me more bloat but more strength
 
whatever test you prefer... i think u shud shoot everyday seeing that ur using tren much easier to control sides and seeing that u are running ur cycle for so long u dont want to be combating tomany sides for most the cycle... never really heard much of aifm but id have letro on hand for a cycle like this... i would prob go with drol seeing that ur running such a high amount of dbol... and i like drol better lol... i like the cycle u have laid out and i run similar cycles but nowhere near the amounts and a few 2many compounds... if ur confident with the cycle then dontchange a thing.. i would run the nolva for atleast 5 - 6 weeks and wot ever else u run with pct.. good luck and keep safe
 
thats a freak run right there, Holy Shizzle Lifthard, you ain't fuggin around.

The last 5 weeks (wk 17-21) will be your toughest since all those compounds require frequent doses. Stanz at 100mg makes me wicked edgy and gives me some really high BP, so good luck on shoveling down 150mg of stanz. Unless its winny depot in which case you will become a human pin cushion. But hey, something has to give.
I like the setup. Keep us posted.
 
10 Things...

#1) I hope you have all your gear at high concentrations because no matter how you slice it, that's a lot of oil to be injecting in your muscles bro.. Who am I to talk though, I've ran a cycle similar to that before..

#2) You need to add in some proviron to free up all that test bro. Test without proviron is a Ford Focus, add in some proviron and you've got a V12.

#3) Use AIFM with your cycle. AIFM blocks an enzyme that reduces boldenone. By reducing the reducing agent with the AIFM, boldenone will be more effective. Macro can chime in on this to clarify my point

#4) Do SOME cardio bro. If you're going to be eating big and taking all this gear, do your heart and breathing a favor and do some HIIT cardio..

#5) Get some PureCEE, Sesapure, and Glucorell.. It baffles my mind when people ask "Ummm, do I really need creatine if I'm juicing?" OF COURSE!! AAS help you recover faster and make your body more efficient with macronutrients, creatine helps you work out longer and harder.

Sesapure will help you continue to feel like a bottomless pit.

Glucorell will keep you from feeling bloated after all the 7000 calorie days you're going to have. It will also keep your insulin in check so that you can maximize lean muscle mass gains.

#6) Watch your sodium:potassium intake.. Take a potassium supplement as well as some Glutamine because your muscles are going to be growing like weeds and you're going to cramp up like crazy...

#7) Do a workout regime that you've never done before. Look into Escalating Density Training or German Volume Training. If you're going to take THAT much gear make this a life changing run, really pack on the mass and change your physique forever.

#8) Eat as clean as possible.. If you're going to run this much gear do your body a favor and feed it right. Get some Udo's choice or similar quality fat supplement to add additional clean calories. You're going to see that it is extremely difficult to get in 6000 clean calories. When I ran a cycle like this it would be 8:30 in the evening and I only had 4000 calories when I needed 6500, a couple tablespoons of Udo's oil is nearly 500 extra quality calories and that really helps out.

#9) Get some Vitamin B injections.. There are so many benefits I'll just save you the the time and just mention them.

#10) Take pictures every 4 weeks to view your progress.

Keep us posted, I'd love to see a daily log from you bro..

T-Matt
 
With all that test, deca, and dbol I dont know if it will be possible for him to do any cardio. Depends on how his body responds to pumps and whatnot. Even walking like 2.5 mph on a treadmill will get his calves and anterior tib so full of blood it'll be paralyzing (at least it is for me at 1+ g test). He may be able to get away with a bike. But even then, all that water retention is hard to pump against.
 
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