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biteme said:


Not at all, but we're talking about 2 different things. I know that in a boxing ring those small guys would knock me out, but as I've said boxing is not fighting in the true sense of the word. It is one dimensional, if that's all they can do, they can be great in the boxing ring, but not necessarily in a street fight where anything goes.
It seems to me that what you're doing is imagining what would happen if you fought somebody like delahoya or whoever. Everybody has an idea of what they can or cant do in a fight and 99% of the time you dont know until you actually do it. But unless you are a trained grappler any top pro boxer welter weight or above would knock out your teeth, break your jaw and cheek bones and knock you out in less than 20 seconds. I know you dont believe this, but it is reality.
 
biteme said:


That's not secure, that is stupid.

But you can take them down with your finishing move- "the headlock"

You still haven't given physical stats such as weight, height, reach. These are very important in a fight, the dictate how you would plan out attacking strategies and defensive manuevers. I know you think a straight in tackle will solve it with a well place headlock. But you don't really know what kind of distance and timing it would take in an open ring against someone much faster and with a longer reach. Your reach is gonna be shorter since you don't want to stand up and fight and most likely your punching power is minimal at best, too much muscle= weak punching especially when not train to punch.

A street fight is dirty, boxers train o go distance and often pace themselves, now imagine in a boxer is outside the confines of a twelve round match, he is gonna throw more punches in one minute than you can react to just to get inside. Sure you might take a few to the head, but the other combos are gonna hit you in eyes, throat, ears, back of the neck, ribs, maybe groin since it is a street fight. But with your indomitable will you will go forward to try to tackle and put on the infamous Headlock :rolleyes:
 
Lord_Suston said:


But you can take them down with your finishing move- "the headlock"

You still haven't given physical stats such as weight, height, reach. These are very important in a fight, the dictate how you would plan out attacking strategies and defensive manuevers. I know you think a straight in tackle will solve it with a well place headlock. But you don't really know what kind of distance and timing it would take in an open ring against someone much faster and with a longer reach. Your reach is gonna be shorter since you don't want to stand up and fight and most likely your punching power is minimal at best, too much muscle= weak punching especially when not train to punch.

A street fight is dirty, boxers train o go distance and often pace themselves, now imagine in a boxer is outside the confines of a twelve round match, he is gonna throw more punches in one minute than you can react to just to get inside. Sure you might take a few to the head, but the other combos are gonna hit you in eyes, throat, ears, back of the neck, ribs, maybe groin since it is a street fight. But with your indomitable will you will go forward to try to tackle and put on the infamous Headlock :rolleyes:

All of your theories mean nothing. I know how to take a man down and put him out quickly. If he is smaller and weaker and can't fight well on the ground, I stand a good chance of getting him on the ground. You really think it's that hard to get close to a boxer and force him to fight on the ground? You're a boxer so you can believe whatever you want. Boxers will get their asses handed to them by any decent ground fighter. If we were talking about ground fighters here instead of boxers, I would say that I would lose to a great 150 pd. ground fighter easily.
 
biteme said:


All of your theories mean nothing. I know how to take a man down and put him out quickly. If he is smaller and weaker and can't fight well on the ground, I stand a good chance of getting him on the ground. You really think it's that hard to get close to a boxer and force him to fight on the ground? You're a boxer so you can believe whatever you want. Boxers will get their asses handed to them by any decent ground fighter. If we were talking about ground fighters here instead of boxers, I would say that I would lose to a great 150 pd. ground fighter easily.


DID YOU FORGET YOU ARE A NURSING STUDENT AND NOT A GRAPPLER!!!! YOU ARE 38 AND DON'T EVEN TRAIN TO GRAPPLE/WRESTLE!!!! Weaker, you mean only in the sense of weight loaded excercises, punching strength, you can't even compare. You know how to take a man down and end it, You have nothing but your ego and fighter's spirit here :rolleyes: . You don't even know what it takes to be a good grappler, you weren't even a top of the line athlete when you were younger, playing JUCO football and then dropping off a University Team...
But after watching a boxing match you think you can take on some of the best PRO-BOXERS in the world with your finishing move the "HEADLOCK":o Face it man just give it up

BTW post your physical stats, I would like them for reference
 
I dont want to piss anyone off here BUT, biteme- you couldnt stand a chance with a pro boxer period!!! i dont even care about the weight class... you say you could tackle them and choke them on the ground. you have to be able to touch them first. i dont think you understand how fast they are. and you dont understand how much they train, and you say you wouldnt even have to train!lmao:)
i know a couple of boxers (not pros) but they are very good and i think you would have a hard time getting these guys on the ground! and they arent even pros...

hey you might be a bad mofo, but it is a diffrent game out there man...

-matt
 
well i saw the fight last nite for free on the ppv channel. i hope that the coutore/ortiz match (ufc on the 26th) is free too. doubt that will end in a headlock.
 
sinjinsmythe33 said:
well i saw the fight last nite for free on the ppv channel. i hope that the coutore/ortiz match (ufc on the 26th) is free too. doubt that will end in a headlock.
cant wait:p
 
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