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biteme..... lord sust was a boxer so he knows more about that aspect more than any of us... I just wanted to add that on the ground strength becomes much more pronounced, especially if you can mount your opponent and hit them with short and powerful blows like hammerfists and elbows. So in a street fight if you would get your weaker opponent on the ground, his superior boxing skills wont really matter. On the judo mat where strikes are not allowed, it once again becomes a matter of endurance and technique.... just like boxing..... I have been tapped out by a 130 lb 5'4 feet tall guy who benches like 135, because my strength and power meant nothing after 2 minutes of sustained grappling and him choking the fuck out of you
 
if i had a million dollars, i would have had a three team parlay today with michigan, arkansas and unlv. then i would have twelve million dollars. at that point biteme, i would be happy to front you whatever you need to cover the medical bills provided by oscar.
 
biteme said:


You speak as if you're 100% certain that this would be the outcome. Would you be willing to put up 1million dollars if you had it, to prove your point?

if it was against Mosly or De la Hoya or Jones, tyson without a doubt unless you are an exceptional human speciment. Like 6"8 reflexes of a cat and a genetic freak. I doubt have million so it doesn't make any sense, I just don't think you realize how much training it takes to become a pro, let alone the best of the pro's

You train for collegiate football, it was brutal right. Before playing you need years of experience and tons of training. Just think of what pro's do and how much time it takes, BTW ali generation does not have the science and training advance of todays athletes, Look at the oldtime football players compared to today pro football player they would get killed, Progression of athletes is inevitable, or record would stand forever
 
sinjinsmythe33 said:
if i had a million dollars, i would have had a three team parlay today with michigan, arkansas and unlv. then i would have twelve million dollars. at that point biteme, i would be happy to front you whatever you need to cover the medical bills provided by oscar.

My problem is that I've never had my ass kicked. I wrestled frequently to submission and I did lose once, so I guess that counts as an asskicking because if I wouldn't have submitted, all of my front teeth would have popped out from the lock. I wrestled bigger and smaller guys and my move was the headlock, I never failed to get my opponent in the lock. On the occasion that I lost, it was too a much bigger guy, an excellent lineman, I had him beat but I let him out of the lock and as soon as I did, he reached up and quickly, b4 I could even react, grabbed me from behind with his arm around my face covering my mouth, if I hadn't submitted immediately, I wouldn't have any teeth. All the boxing skillls in the world wouldn't have gotten me out of that.
 
Re: just out of curiosity biteme...

sinjinsmythe33 said:
did you play d-1 ball?

Navarro JC and was on the team at North Texas State University but I dropped out b4 the season began at North Texas. I set their bench press record in the offseason at 385 pounds. Back in the early-mid 80's that was a lot of weight. I had an opportunity and the ability to be very good. My JC coach told another player from my hometown that came there after I left, that I had the talent to be a good major college level player but that I had a bad temper.
 
I truly think people are underestimating how dangerous a trained boxer is in a street fight. I personally have been in the golden gloves now I am not the baddest man on the planet but at 6'4 235lbs and a trained fighter I am not someone you are going to want to pick a fight with at the local bar, like lord sust said a trained fighter doesn't need time to set up to punch you, he doesn't need a ton of space for a haymaker, all he has to do is hit you coming in and your forward motion versus his punching power = you in a pool of your own blood on the ground. Trust me no matter how much of a badass you think you are if you fight any pro boxer over 150-160lbs unless you are a MMA fighter or just some superhuman freak you are in for a mighty big and mighty painful shock.
 
Lord_Suston said:
I'm sorry biteme, I really just don't think you know how much training it takes to be a boxer, yes it is a street fight but you think that jsut rushing in an tackling a pro-boxer is a walk in the park. That is just as obsurd as if Tito Ortiz said I want to play in the Probowl game, I don't think it is that tough I am fast and I'm tough. lol.

Weak is a relative term, you mean with weights, but their is another strength you are forgetting, how hard can you punch, probably hard, but not nearlly as hard as a proboxer, and they don't need the time to set up like you do. To be honest if you did try it I would be legally obligated to perfomr CPR on you after the fight.

Ending up on the ground is mostly due to inefficient punching skills by both opponents, (not trained fighters). You wouldn't be able to get in on De la Hoya, he would hit you so many time on the way in you would be brain dead...


Fuckin word,


The're called "fighting" muscles and there's a WORLD of difference between bodybuilder strong and fighter strong.

And biteme, you shoud see how fast these guys can move without gloves on. Tv doesn't do it justice.
 
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