DBOL VS Winstrol in liver tox

[Italianboy]

Hey bros why everyone says "USdbol for no more than 4-5weeks at 30mg"and at the same time says"You can use winstrol at 50mg/ed for 6weeks"???
I'm just courious if you have any proof that matandro is more toxic on the liver than stanozolol.
For what I know the only steroids prooved to be more toxic on liver are Halo(the worst)and Anadrol.
For the other compared mg by mg is the same(exept oxa that is prooved to help liver disease).
I'm not flamming anyone but I'd like to know where is the difference and if is it prooved.

 

[genarr3]

Good question.
bump

 

[Italianboy]

Bump!

 

[DrZaius]

DrZaius

I just recently read that liver toxicty of orals is very overrated...said that A50 was about the equivalent of two glasses of wine/day...So as long as we take our milk thistle as a precaution we should be fine.


Peace
DrZ

 

[Italianboy]

Thx and bump once again

 

[MadCow1]

Re: DrZaius

...said that A50 was about the equivalent of two glasses of wine/day...

Trying to remember but I believe the studies that show that A-50 causes liver tumors were at the medical theraputic dose of around 300mg daily (maybe a bit more).

Although that dose is considerable, I doubt whether a few glasses of wine is going to cause such problems.

 

[Norway]

Both are aa-17 so Tecnicly the dbol`s will not hit the liver harder than the winny BUT the water retention from the dbols will stress your liver harder...

 

[Italianboy]

Thx norway,but do you think it can possible?I mean more water ret more stress on liver?How is it possible?
And the fact that both are 17aa doesn't mean all because every 17aa has different elements.

 

[IronFist]

Both are aa-17 so Tecnicly the dbol`s will not hit the liver harder than the winny BUT the water retention from the dbols will stress your liver harder...

If anything, I think that the kidney's may be stressed by the water retention not the liver.

 

[IronFist]

Re: Re: DrZaius

Trying to remember but I believe the studies that show that A-50 causes liver tumors were at the medical theraputic dose of around 300mg daily (maybe a bit more).

Although that dose is considerable, I doubt whether a few glasses of wine is going to cause such problems.

if i am not mistaken, at that dose it would be comparable to 6 glasses of wine.

there are some good studies out there. I can't remember the exact firgures but i think that the 300mg that you are talking about is administered for 3 months at a time. (someone correct me if I'm wrong).