DBOL Lower Back PUMP remedies

[Themachine01]

Is there anyway to lessen the pain of extreme lower back pumps from dbol while training. I love the affects of dbol but I feel sometimes that I can get much better results if my training wasnt negatively affected by the pain. I dont run dbol that much because of this but I plan on running it again shortly.

 

[slat1]

PM Radar. I forget the name of the product he recomends.

 

[swordfish151]

This is what RADAR recommends...works great..i use it.

http://shop.nutritionexpress.com/product_detail.aspx?Itm=96-62400&Add=N

 

[Themachine01]

This is what RADAR recommends...works great..i use it.

http://shop.nutritionexpress.com/product_detail.aspx?Itm=96-62400&Add=N

Thats right, I remember that now, thanks bro. Its pretty cheap too, but how do you take it, how many do you take to help with the pain? Do you take them before training?

 

[Stacemranger]

They beat me to it, was gonna send you to the Radar post too.

 

[swordfish151]

Thats right, I remember that now, thanks bro. Its pretty cheap too, but how do you take it, how many do you take to help with the pain? Do you take them before training?

Yeah its really cheap...i took a total of 4 pills a day (regularly) and noticed no back pain....when i asked RADAR the same question he said that he takes around 4 a day as maintenance and when he felt the "pumps" coming on he would up the dose by another 2 but he also said it depends also on the individual....I took them in the AM with my other supps and then at lunch...i dont lift till the evening so this worked for me...put it this way i was able to do "Deads" while on 30mgs of Dbols..

 

[Themachine01]

I will definately give these a try, I'll post up my results.

 

[swolenole]

Goodies powder allways works for me...I get a constant ache in my lower back about 2 weeks in on D-Bol and it knocks it right out.

 

[Its All Genetics]

Goodies powder allways works for me...I get a constant ache in my lower back about 2 weeks in on D-Bol and it knocks it right out.

am i looking at the right product here .... looks like just regular ol milk thistle to me?

 

[swordfish151]

am i looking at the right product here .... looks like just regular ol milk thistle to me?

Yes you are looking at the right product..i thought the same..but RADAR hasnt steared me or any of us wrong....it works...thats all i know!

 

[Its All Genetics]

Yes you are looking at the right product..i thought the same..but RADAR hasnt steared me or any of us wrong....it works...thats all i know!

is this better then the milke thislt i can get in the stores? should i get this insteat of liv 52?

 

[swordfish151]

is this better then the milke thislt i can get in the stores? should i get this insteat of liv 52?

I like this brand and like i said helps with the "pumps" ..no you should not take instead but in conjunction...so both would be best. Plus this milk thistle is very cheap NOT to buy..

 

[kethnaab]

wow. I really wish I would've seen this thread prior to hitting my PP cycle.

dayam

 

[RADAR]

Folks when it comes to supplements not all supplements are created equal.The milk thistle suggested was discovered after i went thru a bunch of different brands, then i tried it on several members at my gym (12 actually) of those 11 experienced an improvement on back pain.
product -lindburg milk thistle capsules 175 mg 80% standardized extract

RADAR

 

[boston789]

Liv52 is the best IMO. I've gotten blood work done my last two cycles and liver values came back normal with regular use of Liv52.

 

[Ozz2001]

Folks when it comes to supplements not all supplements are created equal.The milk thistle suggested was discovered after i went thru a bunch of different brands, then i tried it on several members at my gym (12 actually) of those 11 experienced an improvement on back pain.
product -lindburg milk thistle capsules 175 mg 80% standardized extract

RADAR

Kind of wierd one works better then another...I always thought thistle was thistle.....Guess it wouldnt hurt to try since i got a ton of naps i wont touch anymore..

 

[boston789]

I use milk thistle along with liv52 and the mg dosage is 1000mg on the thistle for each capsule.

 

[swordfish151]

Folks when it comes to supplements not all supplements are created equal.The milk thistle suggested was discovered after i went thru a bunch of different brands, then i tried it on several members at my gym (12 actually) of those 11 experienced an improvement on back pain.
product -lindburg milk thistle capsules 175 mg 80% standardized extract

RADAR

Works for me evertime!

 

[KOArtist]

why do you think that product works so well? Possibly the "Blessed thistle" in there and not the milk thistle??

 

[njmuscleguy]

ok, I'm confused....milk thistle has long been regarded as a liver protectant (though it's questionable).... Radar, how did you come to figure out that it would help with back pumps??

 

[38532nd]

Milk thistle 1000 mg ed plus NAC amino acid to boot worked for me I was on dbol for 10 weeks with this!!!

 

[KOArtist]

I guess maybe it IS just the plain old thistle then. I thought I "figured it out" when I saw that the Lindberg brand thistle also contained "blessed thistle" (whatever the FUCK that is, lol), but I guess not.

 

[boxerjake]

The milk thistle i take is in liquid form made in germany by HUBATON in which they call it milk thistle mariendistel

Liquid forms have been know to absorb better but then again it depends who's point of view you feel like believing .

This one i take comes in a 300ml glass bottle @ 870 mg per tablespoon

I use as directed on the bottle 3 times daily

It's distributed in canada by a company called NAKA sales LTD out of ontario , my local health food store carries it as i'm on the opposite side of the counrty as ontario . I'm sure it would be easy enough to find else where

 

[martin uk]

Nothing works for me, I have tried

1000mg Milk Thistle
50mg Proviron
50mg Proviron with 20mg Of Tamox
6+ Litres of Water per day

The longest I have been able to run Dbol is about 11 days. The last time I tried to run it, the pain in my lower back was that bad, I could only walk short distances, never mind lift weights.

Horrible stuff

 

[KOArtist]

^^^^^^wouldn't the muscle "hardening" effects of proviron make it even worse bro?

Also, does taurine/potassium ever help out for dbol/tbol back pumps/cramps?? Or is it strictly a "pump" that wouldn't be helped by taurine/postassium?