Dbol cycle + Back problems = no working out and a failure of a cycle! FML

[Tmedlin]

I was recently running a Dbol oral only cycle as my very first cycle. It was a couple weeks in and I had already gained 10 pounds with sizeable strength gains as well.... Then it hit me... I have had slight back pain for years, but it wasn't ever really anything too painful or anything I couldn't deal with. Anyday one day in the gym I was benching really heavy and my head started to throb... It was an unbearable pain and I literally had to sit there on the bench for about 5 minutes. It felt like someone was driving there car over my head... I had to stop working out only 10 minutes in. I came back the next day for back/bicep day. I started warming up with some wide grip pullups. After 10 my head started again... I had to once again stop working out.
To make a long story short it has been 3 weeks with 10+ trips to the chiropractor and I just hit the gym again. I went ahead and kept taking my dbol consistently for the last three weeks of the 6 week cycle. I just finished and have now started my PCT of Unleashed + post cycle with nolvadex and liver support. Anyway, I desperately want to run another cycle, because now that I actually can workout again I am dying to have another go at it! I am pissed at how my first ever cycle went :/
I am on pure bulk right now at 187 with 6 percent body fat at 6'2 (I know to some of you im a skinny beanpole genetics ftw... when I started lifting i was 6'2 140 lol)
I want to hit 205ish by August... Is this possible? When is the soonest I can get back on something...
Would trying an oral steroid like turnabol that doesn't mess with estrogen levels be even worth it? How many weeks minimum (while still being smart about it) do I need to wait to start again. My cycle was 40 days and my pct will be roughly 23 days.

 

[goldie123]

Time off = time on + PCT. Sucks you're cycle didnt go according to plan but these things happen.

So what was wrong with you then?

 

[Tmedlin]

I'd post pics of my xrays if I could...
My hips are slightly off which causes my spin to be crooked to one side and then my c4 vertebrae in my neck compensates back to the other side. The chiropractor has corrected this some to alleviate allot of the pain caused from the nerves being pinched sometimes... I'm taking every precaution... I sleep a certain way, I bought a tempurpedic pillow, and I got custom orthotics made for my flatttt feet, which helps a ton actually... Plus I stretch my neck and back daily and have therapy on my back 3 times a week...
So yea... So basically 8 weeks I have to take off.. FML!!!!! What is something minor I could run while I am waiting the 8 weeks after my PCT?

 

[goldie123]

I'd post pics of my xrays if I could...
My hips are slightly off which causes my spin to be crooked to one side and then my c4 vertebrae in my neck compensates back to the other side. The chiropractor has corrected this some to alleviate allot of the pain caused from the nerves being pinched sometimes... I'm taking every precaution... I sleep a certain way, I bought a tempurpedic pillow, and I got custom orthotics made for my flatttt feet, which helps a ton actually... Plus I stretch my neck and back daily and have therapy on my back 3 times a week...
So yea... So basically 8 weeks I have to take off.. FML!!!!! What is something minor I could run while I am waiting the 8 weeks after my PCT?

Wow that sucks man, atleast you have it under control now though

I've heard Nelson, who knows ALOT recommending bridge, for between cycles. You can get it from needtobuildmuscle.com

Maybe someone else will chime in and say you can go back on sooner, but I'd just wait if I were you. No need to rush, the gear will still be there lol.

 

[Tmedlin]

Wow that sucks man, atleast you have it under control now though

I've heard Nelson, who knows ALOT recommending bridge, for between cycles. You can get it from needtobuildmuscle.com

Maybe someone else will chime in and say you can go back on sooner, but I'd just wait if I were you. No need to rush, the gear will still be there lol.

ok i might have to hit him up then!
Thanks for the advice!
Anyone else have any info or comments?

 

[Foamy27]

ok i might have to hit him up then!
Thanks for the advice!
Anyone else have any info or comments?

Just wanted to add that I feel your pain with the horrible headaches. My last cycle way a test/dbol cycle and some days my head literally felt like someone way smashing it with a sledge hammer or something. The only thing I found that helped was to warm up really slowly and methodically (slow reps with light weight and keep your breathing perfect). Just incase you ever use dbol again you can give this a try.

 

[goldie123]

ok i might have to hit him up then!
Thanks for the advice!
Anyone else have any info or comments?

No worries man. And yer I'd defo have a word with him, he knows loads and rates bridge highly, think he helped make it actually.

 

[C.K.]

high blood pressure?

 

[Tmedlin]

Just wanted to add that I feel your pain with the horrible headaches. My last cycle way a test/dbol cycle and some days my head literally felt like someone way smashing it with a sledge hammer or something. The only thing I found that helped was to warm up really slowly and methodically (slow reps with light weight and keep your breathing perfect). Just incase you ever use dbol again you can give this a try.

Na no more dbol... ever haha!
I refuse to EVER stick myself with anything... PERIOD so I might just stick with turnabol and prohormones.

 

[Tmedlin]

Any recommendations on the best options to bulk without injecting? Any specific product recommendations?
I had in mind some kind of prohormone? Natty test booster stacked in there as well? Creatine of course with tons of protein. Is animal test any good?

 

[Tmedlin]

Anyone?

 

[Lancer55]

Orals for bulking eh, besides dbol, Anadrol and Dieselbolan. You could use Tren, Beastdrol, and Tbol it would be a lean bulk with those.

 

[Tmedlin]

Orals for bulking eh, besides dbol, Anadrol and Dieselbolan. You could use Tren, Beastdrol, and Tbol it would be a lean bulk with those.

I was thinking of running a Beastdrol cycle towards the end of summer... Could i stack tren with beastdrol for strength and size or would that be overkill?

 

[Lancer55]

I was thinking of running a Beastdrol cycle towards the end of summer... Could i stack tren with beastdrol for strength and size or would that be overkill?

You could, Tren-Tfo is mild on the liver so im assuming all oral tren is. But may want to double check on that. Definately take some liver support while on beastdrol.

 

[Tmedlin]

You could, Tren-Tfo is mild on the liver so im assuming all oral tren is. But may want to double check on that. Definately take some liver support while on beastdrol.

Would dieselbolan 2.0 be better for putting on mass than beastdrol?

 

[Lancer55]

Would dieselbolan 2.0 be better for putting on mass than beastdrol?

diet determines the results but yes Dieselbolan was designed for mass, beastdrol was designed for lean mass

 

[RADAR]

Lets STOP! with the suggestions At the moment. CK hit it on the Head,while i agree to some extent about your back problems,what you described on the bench about your head could very possibly be Hi blood Pressure Problems,even if you've never had a BP problem(thats why it's called the silent killer) If you Do steroids,You should have a BP monitor,they only cost around $20.00 and could be the best investment you've ever made. Sure beats being paralized after a stroke has hit or worse.
So slow down here,get yourself checked daily,it could mean your life!

 

[Lancer55]

I didn't see that, ya buy yourself a BP tester, I got one because I have high blood pressure for my age, it was worth the money man don't start a cycle until you get the BP under control, your doc could prescribe you some medicine if it is high. My Grandpa has been in the hospital over a decade now because of a stroke hes paralyzed on one side of his body and can't talk, and when the nurses try to move him sometimes they break a bone moving him because hes so big and his bones are brittle.

 

[Tmedlin]

Lets STOP! with the suggestions At the moment. CK hit it on the Head,while i agree to some extent about your back problems,what you described on the bench about your head could very possibly be Hi blood Pressure Problems,even if you've never had a BP problem(thats why it's called the silent killer) If you Do steroids,You should have a BP monitor,they only cost around $20.00 and could be the best investment you've ever made. Sure beats being paralized after a stroke has hit or worse.
So slow down here,get yourself checked daily,it could mean your life!

Where can I get a BP monitor?
My blood pressure is extremely good, but the head problems were after a week and a half or so of the DBOL... I know that is the problem, because I went heavy on bench today and I was completely fine... No head problems. I am off the DBOL and on my PCT. What should I do to get the BP down or control it while on a cycle? I have taken all the necessary precautions. I took liv 52, and cycle support while on daily. Prohormones never gave me this problem. Maybe I should try something besides dbol next time.
When the subject of dieselbolan comes up or beastdrol I wonder if this same thing will happen again. After my PCT is over I am going to the doctor to get blood work done to check everything out.
Also I was getting allot of chiropractic work done and didn't add in the extra 16 ounces of water in addition to what I was already drinking.

 

[RADAR]

Where can I get a BP monitor?
My blood pressure is extremely good, but the head problems were after a week and a half or so of the DBOL... I know that is the problem, because I went heavy on bench today and I was completely fine... No head problems. I am off the DBOL and on my PCT. What should I do to get the BP down or control it while on a cycle? I have taken all the necessary precautions. I took liv 52, and cycle support while on daily. Prohormones never gave me this problem. Maybe I should try something besides dbol next time.
When the subject of dieselbolan comes up or beastdrol I wonder if this same thing will happen again. After my PCT is over I am going to the doctor to get blood work done to check everything out.
Also I was getting allot of chiropractic work done and didn't add in the extra 16 ounces of water in addition to what I was already drinking.

You can purchase one a Fred's,Wal Mart,CVS basically any place that has a pharmancy.