Dbol by itself

[Mavy]

I agree ... dbol is a steroid like anything else, and is actually the best one in my opinion. People dont have a problem with doing test only, or anavar only, the only reason why people frown on this, is becuase it is an oral and is harder on your liver, and becuase of the water gain that comes along with dbol (this also comes with test, deca etc). After all water is said and gone, nothing builds muscle better than dbol will. You will have a true increase in muscle tissue. The key with dbol is to keep protien intake extememly HIGH!!!

I also agree.. why dont you wait for a month or so when you can afford to add some Deca to the dbol. Is there a big rush to run it now? If so ... well then, I would go like this..

Wk1-6: 30mg/day
Supps: Aromasin, nolvadex (just incase), Tylers Liver Detox, NAC+.

I dont like the idea of running 10mg in the am for a cycle. THis is used as a bridge, not as a cycle, merely becuase it interferes the least with your natural test production. YOu will probably be dissapointed with the results doing it this way, and it will still shut you down. If you are going to turn off your HPTA, you might as well get some good gains from it. I would run it as a cycle, and do proper PCT afterwards.

Mavy

 

[Lab_Wizard]

Dbol 30mg/day

That simple.

 

[got2getripped]

I agree ... dbol is a steroid like anything else, and is actually the best one in my opinion. People dont have a problem with doing test only, or anavar only, the only reason why people frown on this, is becuase it is an oral and is harder on your liver, and becuase of the water gain that comes along with dbol (this also comes with test, deca etc). After all water is said and gone, nothing builds muscle better than dbol will. You will have a true increase in muscle tissue. The key with dbol is to keep protien intake extememly HIGH!!!

I also agree.. why dont you wait for a month or so when you can afford to add some Deca to the dbol. Is there a big rush to run it now? If so ... well then, I would go like this..

Wk1-6: 30mg/day
Supps: Aromasin, nolvadex (just incase), Tylers Liver Detox, NAC+.

I dont like the idea of running 10mg in the am for a cycle. THis is used as a bridge, not as a cycle, merely becuase it interferes the least with your natural test production. YOu will probably be dissapointed with the results doing it this way, and it will still shut you down. If you are going to turn off your HPTA, you might as well get some good gains from it. I would run it as a cycle, and do proper PCT afterwards.

Mavy

That's a good idea, you're probably right

 

[fugetaboutit]

30mg a day is perfect for a first cycle.

 

[Taurus50]

I remember when no one would ever suggest doing a dbol only cycle...especially to a new dude...why the change in approach.

I still think it would be best to combine a 30mg/day dose of dbol with 500mg/wk of test enth.

Bottom line though, its all an experiment. You have to do things on your on to figure out what is best for you.

 

[small but working on it]

obviously one will add water bloat and weight to their body if you do dbol, but why do so many people think it is useless or you will lose ALL of your gains? If it in fact builds muscle quickly(which is the consensus here), why with proper pct would you lose most or all of the gains? I understand that the water weight will go, but you should still have some solid lbm gain. My thought is that some have run this cycle and have not done pct or they did pct and thought that all of the weight gain was muscle. When they lose the water weight, they say to themselves, shit I didnt keep my gains. How about a dbol 25mg daily and winny 50mg daily? I know about the liver issues but I could see someone making some good gains on that cycle. Say run it for 6 or stretch it to 8 wks? anyone? I know Test/deca added would be best but I think you must understand that some bros on here either dont have the privacy (ie my wife found my gear or traveling with pins etc... ) to inject and others are just scared to stick themselves. just my one and a half cents !

 

[yomama]

Dbol by itself is just FINE.

Just moderate the dose and increase only when tolerance rises

I ran dbol only cycle once... waste of dbol, next time I do it right and include inject.

 

[got2getripped]

would Clomid alone be enough for PCT?

 

[BobbyJenious]

Is there anyone here who as acutually done this, and had good results. I'm thinking of doing it myself over the winter for a mild bulking cycle. Not as a first cycle, not because of lack of finances, just want to try something different and a little milder then gassing my self.

 

[jubei]

Dbol only cycles can work, but your diet and training really have to be on. It is far from an ideal cycle, but can still be very benificial under the right circumstances.