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dbol and primo

bruce410 said:
anyone ever run this before. how did you like it.
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I ran 1g/wk of Primo with 50mg/day of D-bol for the first 6 weeks.

Strength came very, very quickly with that cycle but leveled out after 4 weeks and I didn't gain a lot of size.

Also, that was the first cycle where I saw a significant affect on my hairline. Must have been the high dosage of Primo.
 
please no flaming in the thread. he has posted his pic, which is a lot more than i can say for others. he looks good why don't you post a pic and show him your superior or stay out of the thread.

thank you for the input nyd, yea i know it was the classic arnie cycle. i am trying to figure out what to run it with, how often did you inject it? eod? i might just run prop and proviron with it. also have you run proviron before nyd, if you did and didn't lose your hair but did on primo i'd like to know. ive never shed on any roid at all including dbols, tbols, proviron, var, winny, eq, what you think
 
i wasn't flaming him, bruce. i meant that with love.. seriously
i don't talk alot of shit here unless it's to youngguns
 
bruce410 said:
please no flaming in the thread. he has posted his pic, which is a lot more than i can say for others. he looks good why don't you post a pic and show him your superior or stay out of the thread.

thank you for the input nyd, yea i know it was the classic arnie cycle. i am trying to figure out what to run it with, how often did you inject it? eod? i might just run prop and proviron with it. also have you run proviron before nyd, if you did and didn't lose your hair but did on primo i'd like to know. ive never shed on any roid at all including dbols, tbols, proviron, var, winny, eq, what you think
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I injected the Primo twice weekly, it's an enanthate ester so I figured I'd inject like test-E but I did suspect that more often injections would be beneficial.

I have used proviron and never seen a shedding issue but the highest dose of that I've used is 50mg/day. I think the high dose of Primo was the issue.
 
shit that worries me, its all good matty, i just didn't want another flame thread. if i could get into a room with younguns oh what i would do to him
 
bruce410 said:
shit that worries me, its all good matty, i just didn't want another flame thread. if i could get into a room with younguns oh what i would do to him
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i agree. i wish there was a way to find out where he lived. i would beat the living piss out of him on video and post it here for everyone to see. anyway.. sorry for jacking your thread. take care bro
 
now he has a cycle thread up, he is saying he wants to do a gram for his first cycle. he is as dumb as he comes off
 
bruce410 said:
now he has a cycle thread up, he is saying he wants to do a gram for his first cycle. he is as dumb as he comes off
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i know i just posted in it not too long ago. the guy is a complete fucking idiot. i never ever get mad at people on message boards, but that douche-bag gets me to the point where i'm ready to smash my moniter on the floor. that might have something to do with the high dose of tren that im on right now though too.. lol
 
matty420 said:
i wasn't flaming him, bruce. i meant that with love.. seriously
i don't talk alot of shit here unless it's to youngguns
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It's all good, matty. I'm at an age where I don't let any flames get under my skin any more.

I know I'm not in the league of a competitive bodybuilder but if I'm going to give advice to people on here they have a right to see what my results have been.
 
the plan is this
800mg primo ew 1-12
25mg naps ed 1-5
prop 75mg eod as needed
eq 400mg ew 1-14
winny 50mg 13-17
npp 50mg 13-17
proviron 50mg ed throughout as needed.

i go real low with dbols and the eq is not a for sure yet, i will most likely be using it to numb out the pain from the primo which can get a bit sore. the short esters at the end are for letting eq clear, if i do not run eq the cycle will only be 12 weeks with the win and npp at the end 11-15 weeks
 
i like it, but high doses make me feel a bit sick. and also it shuts me down so i can't nut. it seems to be ok now with proviron. there are a lot of bros who dont like test
 
bruce,
not sure if you remember but last year I ran primo for like a gram/wk for about 16 weeks. Can't really advise on the dbol/primo combo but I would assume that would definitely be fun and a worthwhile run.

I got more cut on primo than any other gear alone. Took ed injects on that cyc.

But I'd leave out the EQ if you are gonna run primo --no need to run at the same time --I'd choose one or the other. But also just an FYI --> There is a serious lack of primo supply around that is REAL. Unless its from an old Schering batch it really needs to be scrutinized. A lot of the legit sources are putting Boldenone Undec in replacement of Primo and most users don't know the difference. just a heads up bro
 
thats cool but its a ug lab, and i know him very well, he would not do that to me, i use his eq all the time.
 
bruce410 said:
i am inquiring about the shortage. is it just on primo in general or the actual powder
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actual raw material.
Whats happening is these UG labs are making cheaper DHT derivatives that is like 5% of the actual costs of primo but has 99% less purity than real primo and far less effective. There mixtures will harden up the muscles due to the concoction of DHT derivatives but it will not be true primo and you'll know when used at high doses -- all the nasty sides of DHT (hair loss, acne, high BP etc).

Seriously bro, I've been holding back on yelling this on the boards cause I know peeps are just gonna respond "I trust my source" and they're not gonna care... so I just don't even bother. But I'm throwin this out there for you.

Here's the truth. Primo in its raw material which is then converted into the powder cost like 20K for a kilo. Its super expensive and no GMP labs are bothering with the investment because of the cost. Besides being expensive the manufacturing process for primo requires a lot of the raw material which means the source would have to buy a lot from the manufacturer to even see a worthwhile investment which means many kilos and so the cost is just too outlandish unless you are a major GMP (even the big GMPs operated for major Pharmaceutical Companies are not making it anymore).

Just be skeptical thats all. If you got legit Primo it will be Schering and thats it! There are generic branded versions out there but they are more than likely a DHT derivative and not true Primo.

If you have it then cool, otherwise I wouldn't buy anymore.
 
well i talked to my source and he is well aware of the primo problem, he assures me that he only gets the pure powder as he uses it himself. the problem with getting the good powder is you have to get so much, but thats all good in our situation. me wants a lot and so do other bros. i am running it with the naps, gonna be fuggin awesome. thats april though, shit i can't wait till tomorrow to see how the tren is on day 4
 
bruce410 said:
the plan is this
800mg primo ew 1-12
25mg naps ed 1-5
prop 75mg eod as needed
eq 400mg ew 1-14
winny 50mg 13-17
npp 50mg 13-17
proviron 50mg ed throughout as needed.

i go real low with dbols and the eq is not a for sure yet, i will most likely be using it to numb out the pain from the primo which can get a bit sore. the short esters at the end are for letting eq clear, if i do not run eq the cycle will only be 12 weeks with the win and npp at the end 11-15 weeks
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Very interesting here B. The only thing i would consider would be to bump up the Eq if you did indeed throw it in, and i personally would need more test....but i'm so f**king test dependent. You can see the synergy in that cycle....man oh man.
 
bruce410 said:
the plan is this
800mg primo ew 1-12
25mg naps ed 1-5
prop 75mg eod as needed
eq 400mg ew 1-14
winny 50mg 13-17
npp 50mg 13-17
proviron 50mg ed throughout as needed.

i go real low with dbols and the eq is not a for sure yet, i will most likely be using it to numb out the pain from the primo which can get a bit sore. the short esters at the end are for letting eq clear, if i do not run eq the cycle will only be 12 weeks with the win and npp at the end 11-15 weeks
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Looks like a nice cycle Id run the primo till week 14 if possable along side the eq ..sounds like a nice combo
primo/eq .. might give that one a test drive some time
 
Bozwell said:
Looks like a nice cycle Id run the primo till week 14 if possable along side the eq ..sounds like a nice combo
primo/eq .. might give that one a test drive some time
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I personally wouldn't run eq and primo, but if your hell bent on it, I agree with Boz and would run the primo the same lenght as the eq.
 
I have done it, not more than three years ago, with test and some other gear,

To answer your question, got the best results of any cycle I have ever been on.


Dropped body fat, which is constant problem for me and gained muscle,


I loved it.
 
gots my primo and my naps, will be doing
1 gram of primo ew 1-14
25mg dbol ed 1-4
20mg aromasin ed 1-6
37.5mg tren ace ed 5-11
50mg proviron ed 1-14
npp 75mg eod 12-15

most likely no test will be used as it makes me sick. can't fucking wait. i'll use hcg the last couple of weeks to get my testes at size. during this time i will run aromasin 20mg ed and possibly derm. clomid 50mg ed will begin one day after last shot of npp
 
For real. Ever seen Ken Shamrock's hair? It made my hair get thin all over on top like his. I didn't get male pattern baldness. It made the whole top of my head thin.

That being said, I still want to do some!
 
bruce410 said:
the plan is this
800mg primo ew 1-12
25mg naps ed 1-5
prop 75mg eod as needed
eq 400mg ew 1-14
winny 50mg 13-17
npp 50mg 13-17
proviron 50mg ed throughout as needed.

i go real low with dbols and the eq is not a for sure yet, i will most likely be using it to numb out the pain from the primo which can get a bit sore. the short esters at the end are for letting eq clear, if i do not run eq the cycle will only be 12 weeks with the win and npp at the end 11-15 weeks
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Will you run the npp ed or eod .
Brad.
 
marshallmadman said:
Hope you like being bald. Primo is the only thing that thinned my hair so far.
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you didn't have real primo then - Guaranteed. Primo is easy on the hairline bro. One of its better know anabolic effects is lack of conversion to DHT; you had some DHT derivative concoction that was sold as Primo.
 
Yep. It was my first cycle (ahh, memories :D).

It's a solid cycle, albeit rather expensive... or at least it used to be. If you're running 1.3g of gear at the time... hmm, well, with the EQ it's not that heavily androgenic... seems like something I would run for a few months. I wouldn't expect it to cause explosive gains or heavy water retention, so if you're looking put on some quality mass, it looks good. I wouldn't hope for results not dissimilar to a heavy test cycle laden with orals, though. If you don't end up running the EQ or another concurrent, the cycle might leave you wanting, depending on your goals. I don't know your history, but a primo-based cycle would seem comparably weak with respect to many other commonly used cycles.

What's with the prop labeled "as needed"? Are you looking at it to kickstart the cycle, to add something androgenic, to have as a variable based on strength/weight/lift gains throughout, et cetera?

A month's worth of shorter-acting drugs with the purpose of letting the EQ clear... depending on whether or not you're looking for the individual effects from those drugs, I don't see why you'd want shorter esters. The longer ester steroids will self-taper based on their halflife. EQ doesn't really take that much longer to clear, as with deca, but rather it's the lingering metabolites and effects on the endocrine system while using that give both their reputation.

Lots of steroids can lead to hair thinning -- it really depends on your genetic predisposition. I believe the mechanism is pretty straight foward if it's any kind of worry.



:cow:
 
iHulk said:
Unless its from an old Schering batch it really needs to be scrutinized.
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I'd be very wary of anyone purporting to have a large stock of Scherings. Those have been heavily counterfeited throughout the years, and originals have always been hard to come by, even around the turn of the century.



:cow:
 
I agree. I spoke to 3 suppliers over the weekend [in Thailand] of which a good percentage of all your gear comes from (including raw powders from India and China) and after speaking with them I'll go so far as to say that nobody is manufacturing true Primo.
Anyone ordering from a UG lab claiming to have Primo (especially 200mg Primo) is getting scammed. Period.
How you like them apples?
Sorry Bruce. Get it tested bro!!!! Just watching out for ya.

samoth said:
I'd be very wary of anyone purporting to have a large stock of Scherings. Those have been heavily counterfeited throughout the years, and originals have always been hard to come by, even around the turn of the century.

:cow:
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iHulk said:
I agree. I spoke to 3 suppliers over the weekend [in Thailand] of which a good percentage of all your gear comes from (including raw powders from India and China) and after speaking with them I'll go so far as to say that nobody is manufacturing true Primo.
Anyone ordering from a UG lab claiming to have Primo (especially 200mg Primo) is getting scammed. Period.
How you like them apples?
Sorry Bruce. Get it tested bro!!!! Just watching out for ya.
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Ive seen tests for clp primo ds 208mg/ml stings like fuck from what Ive heard though
 
I lov test. I fuck the shit out of anything that walks hell anything that has a hole. Im kidding but I do fuck the shit out of my blond friend from work. She loves it.
 
i appreciate i hulk, i will have to talk with my guy again. samoth, ive ran eq before at 800mg ew for 17 weeks with proviorn and i threw in some prop npp and fast esters in and out of the cycle. i don't like lots of test, i'll throw it in as needed like prop or suspension. i like lean gains and bloat means nothing to me, the dbols will be run with aromasin so they don't bloat me.
 
iHulk said:
I agree. I spoke to 3 suppliers over the weekend [in Thailand] of which a good percentage of all your gear comes from (including raw powders from India and China) and after speaking with them I'll go so far as to say that nobody is manufacturing true Primo.
Anyone ordering from a UG lab claiming to have Primo (especially 200mg Primo) is getting scammed. Period.
How you like them apples?
Sorry Bruce. Get it tested bro!!!! Just watching out for ya.
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ok i get it and i appreciate it, my boy makes it into 200/ml form and he says he is aware of the shortage but can get pure powder its just real expensive. there is no way at all he could be buying pure primo powder? people that have used it and are not mpb prone have not lost hair, that is a good thing. i don't know now
 
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