armaniak47 that was very helpful!!! I can get any injectable. The reason I want to do the dbol is because I have it. I am really not try to cut though to speak, just drop the little bit on the lower abs so I can regulate my fat when I do my bulk cycle in a few weeks. This would be a jump start. I just want to get the most out of it while running my fat burner and not put it to waste. But now after reading your post I would think about running 20mg a day with the burner because I only have 100 of 10 mg pills. How would that sound? Also I was thinking about test e 300mg and eq or tren on a mon. And thur. Dose after.
In my personal training opinion.. It's best to bulk into being a bodybuilder.. once you are big enough you can be lean and gain muscle, or cut easily. Some of the biggest bodybuilders I have known will be working on getting bigger but showing every vein and ab.. That's where we want to get; from a bodybuilding standpoint.
I don't know your steroid experience.. so it's hard to say on the tren.. I tend to think it's a tool we should use when we really need it, and not to be taken lightly.. Sticking to the safe and comfortable classics is best as long as possible. Dbol fits well into this category, so long as you aren't taking 30 pills a day.
If you're bulking try Test C./Dbol..
I'd say 400mgs/week test C 10-16 weeks and 10-20mgs/day dbol the first 4 weeks.
I'm also a part of the permanent HRT persuasion.. I hate ancillary drugs and PCT drugs.. I hate the crash and how hard that is on your system.. and most of all, I hate losing the gains trying to recover.. I switch over to my permanent ideal HRT level with no crash.
I "cycle off" (by that I mean revert to my HRT) only to ease any strain on my system (such as from oral preparations, harsh drugs-like tren. or high doses) and also for receptor reformatting.
I would use AI/SERMS/HCG etc only when I absolutely have to.. I prefer DHT based drugs for controlling estrogen levels so far.. But may some day use AI's as well.