Dave Palumbo advice

[ryno9000]

So I'm looking in MD magazine and reading some of Dave Palumbo's "Anabolic Freak" section. His advice on example cycles and PCT is far different than what you will find on this site. I understand that advice on this forum will tend to be one way, as many folks get help here and then repeat that to other newbies and so on, but are there completely different yet equally good ways to run cycles that just are not represented here? I'm interested to hear.

Example 1 from the magazine:
wk 1-8 200mg DECA 3x week
50mg Winstrol 3x week
week 9-16 100mg Tren 3x week
100mg Primo 3x week

PCT example:

Week 1-3: 2,000 IU HCG Mon/Thurs
week 3-4: 100 mg Clomid/day
Week 5-10: 1 mg Arimidex/day


Notice there is no test in his cycle (I'd love to hear about this....I'm not opposed to either viewpoint so have fun with this) and how dumb it seems to run the Arimidex the way he has it. However, I could be wrong and this could be effective. Discuss.

 

[KD1]

Yeah some guys at my gym run no-test cycles, usually DECA based. They seem to have fewer sides as far as water and gyno than most, but do have more cock issues. One guy I know runs HCG throughout, and no test and he has no libido issues.

 

[GUARDIAN]

i just have a problem with no test. i have done it a couple of times and honestly i got better results with it and i felt so much better (drive and overall well being).

I think the HCG dosage is off the charts.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

I'd run a all test cycle before I'd run another no test cycle.
PCT? I'm not a believer anymore.

 

[ryno9000]

i just have a problem with no test. i have done it a couple of times and honestly i got better results with it and i felt so much better (drive and overall well being).

I think the HCG dosage is off the charts.

I was wondering about that, seemed high. But I've heard that more doesn't do anything to help or hinder you. Also 1mg ED of Arimidex? And for Post Cycle? Thats a first for me.

 

[GUARDIAN]

I was wondering about that, seemed high. But I've heard that more doesn't do anything to help or hinder you. Also 1mg ED of Arimidex? And for Post Cycle? Thats a first for me.

Could desensitize leydig cells.

adex or aromasin are fine for pct bc hcg could raise estrogen levels. but u would want to run it at a small dose throughout pct.

 

[GUARDIAN]

I'd run a all test cycle before I'd run another no test cycle.
PCT? I'm not a believer anymore.

do u just stay on or just try to recover naturally?

 

[njmuscleguy]

Not to mention the fact that he's running 16 weeks of nandrolones! Coupled with no test? I can only imagine that recovery would be a bitch! I understand running adex at the end of PCT to prevent estrogen rebound...but 1mg ED for 5 weeks is way overkill.... overall, a poorly designed cycle and PCT IMHO

 

[Nelson Montana]

A: I 'm not sure why people here seem to think test is mandatory. They also seem to think it's the best first cycle and I think it's the worst.

B: I recommended adexx for PCT back in the days when such an idea was considered insane by the resident gurus.

C: I also feel PCT is overrated in that it is not a cure and people tend to overuse anti e's

D: Dave Palumbo is a renegade and his suggestions are applicable to pretty much no one else besides him. You can make up dosages and strange stacks all day long that doesn't mean they're worthy of debate and discussion. It's just filling magazine space.

E: The recommended dosage of HCG is just silly.

 

[mwm5]

A: I 'm not sure why people here seem to think test is mandatory. They also seem to think it's the best first cycle and I think it's the worst.
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please explain....curious. i've been researching for my first cycle.