Damn these puffy nips!!!

[2002busa]

Ok, im sick of this $hit!! Im in the last week of my cycle (cycle is listed in my sig below) and have been having sporadic flare ups of this puffiness throughout! Currently runnin 4 pumps ed of my AIFM for anit-e.

it seems to do the trick most of the time, but last few days i look and feel like i just breast fed 30 starving children! This is killing my self esteem especially in the presence of a lady!

Have letro on hand, but since im runnin such a high dosage of winny, that combo was killin my joints. Im 2 test injections away from beginning my PCT
(HCG, Nolva, Clomid).

should i...
A. Suck it up and hold out til PCT and see if Nolva will take care of it
B. Start nolva today and run it thru the PCT, even thru HCG
C. start wearin a bra and start callin my self SHIRLEY!!!


Help me bros!!

 

[ortiz34]

Start the nolva right now bro 40 mgs daily

 

[JuicedAthletics]

yup start it.. dont fuck around with gyno.....

 

[20ss02]

Start the nolva right now bro 40 mgs daily

Agreed - this worked for me during my last cycle.

The puffiness came back when I started HCG. 40mg of Nolva and 4 pumps/day of AIFM took care of it.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

most likely the winstrol is causing the flare-ups. the PgR is a modulator of the ER, stong action or lack of action can both cause issues. Winstrol is primarily considered an antagonist of the PgR, but it also has agonist activities. In this case since "puffyness" is the primary problem sounds like either a prolactin and/or PgR issue.


stop the winstrol for a couple of days, if the problem goes away then you know that was the cause and that perhaps you are not well suited for high dose winny.

you can also add dopaminergics.

adding nolva may worsen the problem (cant say with certainty about stanozolol's actions in this area are less than well understood, but the mere fact that it has significant PgR binding indicates against the use of nolva)

 

[2002busa]

Thanks for the help bros

Ive run winny long enough on the end of this cycle, bf is sittin at 10% so i think im just gonna drop the winny to see if that was the cause. if it is, ill know for future reference not to run high doses.

if in a few days if still look like i got udders, im kickin up the nolva and stickin with the AIFM + nolva combo throughout the PCT.

ill keep ya posted!!

 

[macrophage69alpha]

as a note- you can use light direct aifm application on puffy nips (this has produced good results for many)- remember to exfoliate very well (thats thicker skin) and rub in thoroughly.

 

[Knights2]

yea i was gunna say try the Nolva..drop the winny for now...and like MACRO said try appliyng the AIFM to the nipps...shit should do the trick man...good look and keep us posted

 

[GetBig10]

B and C...no juist kiddin i say your start nolva...40mg first day..20 the rest

 

[2002busa]

as a note- you can use light direct aifm application on puffy nips (this has produced good results for many)- remember to exfoliate very well (thats thicker skin) and rub in thoroughly.

yeah Mac, was using my AIFM this way in the begin of cycle, seemed to keep it at bay for a good while, but i have a problem with the "AIFM rash" that has plagued a few bro's here. constantly havin to rotate sites, and even my nips developed a little bit of one a few weeks in...that was only reason i stopped the direct application.

will go back to that method though, sporadically to keep rash away as well

 

[goateater]

How were the gains on this cycle? I am interested in running this exact cycle early next year...

 

[2002busa]

How were the gains on this cycle? I am interested in running this exact cycle early next year...

strength gains were incredible. bf dropped to 10%

as far as sheer size, im just happy to report that i didnt LOSE any, since the main idea behind this cycle was a cutter.

if had to do over again, i would have dropped my bf% down a bit lower before hand to really see the affects, but all in all i am extremely impressed with hardness and strenght. will run this cycle again over summer next year, after my next bulker

 

[52_21_30]

I'm running something similar right now (deca instead of eq) and have the same problem. Though it's expensive, the only thing that seems to work for me is dostinex and 20 mg daily of Nolva.

P.S. I hope that 12 weeks of winny was injectable

 

[macrophage69alpha]

I'm running something similar right now (deca instead of eq) and have the same problem. Though it's expensive, the only thing that seems to work for me is dostinex and 20 mg daily of Nolva.

P.S. I hope that 12 weeks of winny was injectable

nandrolone.. just use the dostinex, if anything the nolva can make it worse. you should use an AI (which downregulate PgR expression, instead of nolva which upregulates it)


note- there is very little difference between oral and injectable winstrol when it comes to the liver.

 

[Vascular Freak]

Test, eq and winstrol is my favorite aas stack.... PERIOD! Next time add in some T3, and proviron if you want to really "granitize" your body.