D-bol

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I'll take a slightly different stance. Although a "dboll only" cycle is not a good idea, i don't think the gains from Dianabol - methandrostenolone - are any less "keepabale" than anything else.

Any drug that bloats gives the impression that you're getting big. Then you piss twice and lose 20 pounds. (Androl is the worst at this). But the bloating from Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is increased blood volume and that can help in building solid muscle. In fact, I think mg per mg, Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is THE most effective steroid.

But yeah, in orer to get any gains from Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only, you'd need 50 mgs a day and that gets to the toxic point pretty quick.

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people fail to realize that most of the gains from juice are temporary, regardless of which one you are taking

 

[boston789]

boston: didnt you just finish your last P`C`T bro?

I did a couple of weeks ago. Got bloodwork back and everything was fine. Hopped back on last week.

 

[Svengali]

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people fail to realize that most of the gains from juice are temporary, regardless of which one you are taking

I think that you are misrepresenting his position.
I think he is referring to anadrol and dbol, the drugs that create crazy bloat and the "perception" of gains. I know that he believes that Primo- does not have this characteristic. Dbol and anadrol is like riding a rollercoaster..

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think that you are misrepresenting his position.
I think he is referring to anadrol and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - , the drugs that create crazy bloat and the "perception" of gains. I know that he believes that Primobolan - methenolone - - does not have this characteristic. Dbol and anadrol is like riding a rollercoaster..

Prim does what all gear does but without water retention. That's good and bad -- dpending o how you look at it. The gains are clean. Whatever muscle you grow, you can keep for the most part with the right steps. It takes a couple of hundred bucks to get that "jacked up" look on Prim whereas on a couple of hits of T you start to look big -- think you're big -- and then when you're off you say "what happened?"

Dboll is bloating but as mentioned, it increases blood volume which is a HUGE factor in building muscle. (The reasoning behind VIGOR). But you have to work for it. Some guys like the "pumped up feeling" and then get disapointed when it's gone. It can only help while you're on. But part of those gains can be maintained. And BTW-- that's more a matter of training and nutritional protocol than using P C drugs.

 

[needtogetaas]

Dude, you really need to do some more research before you jump into a cycle. Dianabol - methandrostenolone - will give you some weight but alone it will not be keepable gains. Start off with 500mgs of Testosterone E EW for 10 weeks. If you want throw in DBol 1-4 40mgs ed in order to jump start your cycle.

I hope you know about Anti-e's and PCT - post cycle therapy - . Do you?

what he said...also you came to the right place we are all here to help you.

 

[xrsist]

dave, i asked a similar question to yours a few weeks ago and got shot down in the same kinda way, its funny, some of these guys on here are so expert assholes, do your research, make your own opinion and do what YOU want to do......its your body, and no one on here a doctor anyways...............