Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Ok......so back pumps and headaches started FROM MY FIRST PILL! Anyways, I'm sitting at work, in pain......and headaches to boot. I'm hoping these crap symptoms stop. Anyways, I know that most painkillers (Tylenol, vicoden, etc) cause mad damage to the liver in conjunction w/ d-bol. I was wondering how much safer is Celebrex? I've heard it is much better to take while on cycle. Any info?
D-bol.......ouch
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Mythicalbeing
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From one pill? I get pumps after a week or so, always good to build up to dose I always say, if your that bad on the BP, watch out when you go heavy....you could be at risk to pass out, or black out, and keep tabs on the heart rate and BP....my opinion.
I usually don't get back pumps until 7-10 days into dbol. I found that my headaches were being caused by water retention and a subsequent increase in blood pressure. My advise is to check your pressure and continually monitor it. Try to avoid the bloat by avoiding sodium. If needed, add a mild diuretic to rid excess water.
WolfPack Charlie
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All that with 4 20mg pills? Then I hope my 50mg tabs dont kill me!!
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DaddyX
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if you got that from one pill i think something else is wrong
Wolfpack, it was 4-5mg pills = 20 mg. I'm fine now, but seem to get the feeling for like an hour after I take each tab (2 at a time this week). Also what dose of milk thistle should I do ED? I was thinking like 400mg. It's Standardized Milk Thistle Seed Extract. 200mg per pill.
WolfPack Charlie
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I mis-typed, but damn that makes me wonder if I'm gonna have anything like that. I'm gonna half mine but I'll still be getting 25mg per half. Oh well, gotta take the good with the bad I guess!!
concordsize
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Im on my 2nd week of dbol at 40mg ed... No probs here, but I have taken dbol for several years now but never went higher then 30mg. Anandrol was a whole diffrent story on the other hand.
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DaddyX
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WolfPack Charlie said:
are you using IP dbol - if so you dont have to worry about anything including gains. if not then goodluck
concordsize
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daddyx??? have you used ip's gear lately?? I got a buddy of mine some tabs and he is loving them.
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DaddyX
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concordsize said:
no i havent tried the new stuff. i know in the past i have never really heard much good stuff about his dbol tho. hey, hopefully his newer stuff is good like when he first came out. i tried his winny before and i liked it alot. good to hear your buddy got some good ones
WolfPack Charlie
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You are correct Sir!!! But as far as IP not working, I gots to say that is bunk. I have used IP Sus and it was awesome, my source's source uses all IP gear and the guy is huge. Not to say there isn't any bad shit out there, but to group all IP gear as shit is IMO is a little hasty!
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DaddyX
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WolfPack Charlie said:
i agree but when you have any UG lab or company putting out questionable products why use it ? IP has been hit or miss for a while now and i wouldnt risk spending my money on a gamble with his stuff. hopefully yours is good bro. goodluck
WolfPack Charlie
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I'll let ya all know. I use it because after a couple years searching, I finally stumbled upon a source. IP just happened to be the gear he could get. Like I said, I know that with IP being an underground lab, I am running the risk of getting either low dosed or no dosed stuff, but since I only got 1 source I gotta roll the dice! Cycle starts Thursday, thats when my pins come in along with my protein so I'll know soon whether or not the dbol is legit or not!
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DaddyX
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WolfPack Charlie said:
keep us updated bro, hope it goes well for you
WolfPack Charlie
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Me 2 bro, me 2. Quick question for ya while you're on and seem to know your shit, I was thinking of front-loading the Sus at 750mg while doing dbol for the first 4 weeks, what is your opinion? I'm thinking that the dbol would probably be enough and the front load will be overkill, but if it is gonna boost my gains, I'm all for it.
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DaddyX
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i dont think you need to frontload the sustanon, although you could to get it "working" faster. but if your using dbol in the beginning i think that will be a good enough kickstart to your cycle. Test/dbol = mass blow up !!!!
blow up !!!!
WolfPack Charlie
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Thanks bro, I guess I'll save it and add it to the end for an additional week. BTW, I'm also running winny tabs (IP again) for weeks 10-13 at 50mg a day. Any need to split the winny up per daily dose or all at once, same Q about the dbol. Dont mean to jack this guys thread, but your insite is much appreciated!
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DaddyX
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WolfPack Charlie said:
you can take the winny all at once and remember to chew his tabs. the dbol i would split in half, atleast half. i am glad to answer any questions you have.
WolfPack Charlie
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We'll do, and sincerely, thanks for taking the time to answer my numerous questions. This is certainly worth some KARMA FOR YOU!! I made some pretty good gains from the first cycle, and want at least the same from the next (actually want more), so I'm trying to ensure that I have the best methods as possible.
concordsize
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I kinda feel bad about taking over this dudes thread.lol but why not extend the winny out for several more weeks??? I think you would like the results much better!!!
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DaddyX
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WolfPack Charlie said:
hey no problem at all. im glad i could help. on a side note i would run the winny a little longer as said. if you are running the dbol for the first for weeks i dont see a problem going on the winny at weeks 8-9. just my opinion. kick some ass bro !
WolfPack Charlie
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Well, looks like I got a phone call to make. Running the winny for 8-9 weeks would give me an overall 18 week cycle. Theres no problem with that? Or are you guys referring to running the winny earlier in the cycle, say after the 4 weeks of dbol to the end of the cycle?
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DaddyX
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WolfPack Charlie said:
hey bro, what i meant to say was start it at week 8 or 9 of the cycle to the proposed 13th week. that should work. sorry if i didnt word it correctly.
WolfPack Charlie
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I got ya, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is you're proposed running of my cycle:
1-4 dbol
1-10 sus
8-13 winny
If so, that sounds good to me. I can actually get my hands on that extra week of winny this week with no prob. Thanks again, and agin, and again.
One more question, my buddy (also my source) is starting his first cycle and is going to run it the exact way I did my first. Which is 250mg Sus 300 E4D for 6 weeks. He has 4 weeks of winny tabs (50mg) and is wondering how he should run it. He is already 235 and doenst want to put on too much more weight that's why he's running a shorter cycle. BF is probably around 20% for him. Thanks again bro!!
1-4 dbol
1-10 sus
8-13 winny
If so, that sounds good to me. I can actually get my hands on that extra week of winny this week with no prob. Thanks again, and agin, and again.
One more question, my buddy (also my source) is starting his first cycle and is going to run it the exact way I did my first. Which is 250mg Sus 300 E4D for 6 weeks. He has 4 weeks of winny tabs (50mg) and is wondering how he should run it. He is already 235 and doenst want to put on too much more weight that's why he's running a shorter cycle. BF is probably around 20% for him. Thanks again bro!!
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DaddyX
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WolfPack Charlie said:
6 weeks of sustanon will work however i would run it for 8 +. that being said he can run the winny at the beginning which is fine. the cycle you just posted, i like. try that and keep us updated
WolfPack Charlie
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Thanks from my bud, and for me again 2. If I could, I'd give ya more Karma.....wait I can. I will post some updates! You da Man Daddy!
02gixxersix
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I don't think you're gonna get a pump and headaches from 4 d-bol. Something else is going on. What excercise were you doing when you got a pump????
Whoa back now........
Exercise was sitting at my damn desk. It was weird shit. But, on good note. I've downed my first 35mg and I seem to be feeling fine. Hopefully I've adjusted to this. Also just shot my first 500mg enanth & 300 mg deca into the legs (mixed the two equally in each leg). Did squats today. Fucking needsizes 5x5 is awesome. First time w/ squats doing 5x5. Anyways, I did spread out the last 3 doses of d-bol out one at a time. Felt tight again, and headachy, but less each time. Anyways, the soreness is down. Knock on wood that this lasts. Oh by the way....the reason this is sounding so all-over-the-place is because I'm considerably blazed right now. Excellent.
Exercise was sitting at my damn desk. It was weird shit. But, on good note. I've downed my first 35mg and I seem to be feeling fine. Hopefully I've adjusted to this. Also just shot my first 500mg enanth & 300 mg deca into the legs (mixed the two equally in each leg). Did squats today. Fucking needsizes 5x5 is awesome. First time w/ squats doing 5x5. Anyways, I did spread out the last 3 doses of d-bol out one at a time. Felt tight again, and headachy, but less each time. Anyways, the soreness is down. Knock on wood that this lasts. Oh by the way....the reason this is sounding so all-over-the-place is because I'm considerably blazed right now. Excellent.
concordsize
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no thoes sound like bd they are one of the best. I am on them right now and up some good weight and strength...
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On d-bol back pain I have two pieces of advice. One is to use good all Advil (ibuprofen) at 800MG (four pills) the same as a motrin, and it's not as harsh as Tynolos on your liver (I can't spell today!) Also you may want to try out a chiropractor for the back pain and spasms. Works for me. Thanks!
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