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D-Bol and Tren Ace. 4 week cycle.. True?

navigatorrs said:
Bros this is his FIRST cycle. Bro dont try trenbolone right away. Go with a simple testosterone enanthate cycle to start off. And for PCT - post cycle therapy - thats way to much clomid??? 50mg ED of clomid for 4 weeks is plenty.

agreed, good advise there
 
Alcatraz1662 said:
i was just about to say this.

i think he's trying to do too much for a first cycle. if you get any major sides (or major gains for that matter) how the hell are you gonna be able to tell which compound it is? keep it simple stupid for the first time and add in additional compounds at a later time:

1-10 testosterone enanthate 500mg/ew
1-10 Arimidex - anastrozole - .5mg/eod
12-15 Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 40-40-20-20

guaranteed 10-15lbs, brother.

~Alc
good call alcatraz.

you need to know which drugs do what to your body. and wait and the tren bro. some saw its the best drug out there so save it for last, see what you can get from everything else before you try it. my "rat" is about to do its 6th cycle and this will be its first tren run.

IMO 4 week cycles are pointless. they dont give anything time to kick in. 6 would be the minimum IMO.
 
alcatraz, navigattors and trowsersnake, all sensible bros there. i dont see the logic in people recommending 2-3-4 coumpounds for a first run (maybe thats the big tough thing to do where they come from). test with an AI and p c t and a clean diet with solid training and plenty of rest and that is all you will need.
 
you will get great gains off test only with an AI. my rats first run was primobolan only at 400mg a week and it gained nearly 20lbs. not all clean weight but, some good quality muscle for sure.
 
Bros!

The point of me trying a 4 week cycle. Not long esters.. usually long esters take longer for the side effects to go away, I cant risk being on a long ester that may fuck me up. I rather in ject evey 2 days with shorts esters that will be out of my system by the end of a full week. Also! being my 1st cycle... I will def. be getting some intense gains....

So give me some more info on what you guys think of these cycles...
 
Alcatraz1662 said:
i was just about to say this.

i think he's trying to do too much for a first cycle. if you get any major sides (or major gains for that matter) how the hell are you gonna be able to tell which compound it is? keep it simple stupid for the first time and add in additional compounds at a later time:

1-10 testosterone enanthate 500mg/ew
1-10 Arimidex - anastrozole - .5mg/eod
12-15 Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 40-40-20-20

guaranteed 10-15lbs, brother.

~Alc

Exactly. Go with the 10 week Test E to start.
 
Like some of the others have said test only for a first cycle. I would do prop 150 mg eod, than run your clomid three days after your last shot. Personally I would go longer than 4 weeks though.
 
xX3mptyWordsXx said:
its 300mg of clomid 1st day then aftger is 100and then it drops to 50mg.. til day 21...

i understand that Bro, you could still have a miserable experience . the standard protocol is 50 mg ED for 20-30 days starting depends on what esters you are running.

plus on a 4 week cycle that is WAY overkill
 
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