D-Bol and Tren Ace. 4 week cycle.. True?

[xX3mptyWordsXx]

How harsh can this four week cycle be?
And what would it do to the body??

Four weeks of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - : 30mg ED Spreaded dose
Four weeks of trenbolone: 50mg EOD
Four weeks of Proviron: 75mg ED (To get the dick up)
Four weeks of Arimidex: .5 ED

PCT - post cycle therapy - :
Only Clomid
1st day: 300mg
2nd to 10th day: 100mg
11th to 21th: 50mg


OR WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF THIS

Four weeks: Test Prop at 100mg EOD
Four weeks: Tren Ace at 50mg EOD
Four weeks: Proviron 75mg ED
Four weeks: Arimidex .5

PCT:
Only Clomid
1st day: 300mg
2nd to 10th day: 100mg
11th to 21th: 50mg

 

[bw1]

#2. I've done 4 wks on 4wks of before. I liked it, but I prefer longer cycles

 

[big.nad]

why only 4 weeks?

defs dont need that much proviron. i was advised on another thread that 25mg per day was plenty.

 

[Bazl]

interesting.
read here the other day, that just on dbol, won't need pct after 4 weeks.
having said that, i always have a pct routine in place. may have read it wrong though.
not 100 percent sure. someone let me know?
interesting to find out.
personally, i prefer longer.

baz

 

[DannoMight]

it would merely get your feet wet and leave you wanting more.

 

[xX3mptyWordsXx]

LoL wtf is up with the response with danno?
lol... dude... .

So what do you guys think about it?!
It'd be my 1st cycle

 

[DannoMight]

LoL wtf is up with the response with danno?
lol... dude... .

So what do you guys think about it?!
It'd be my 1st cycle

i was just kidding with ya bro. it looks good but 4 weeks comes awfully fast. at least for me it does. but both possibly cycles look good for a 1st time.

 

[steelmass]

NEVER run tren w.o Dostinex

 

[navigatorrs]

Bros this is his FIRST cycle. Bro dont try trenbolone right away. Go with a simple testosterone enanthate cycle to start off. And for PCT thats way to much clomid??? 50mg ED of clomid for 4 weeks is plenty.

 

[alcatraz1662]

Bros this is his FIRST cycle. Bro dont try trenbolone right away. Go with a simple testosterone enanthate cycle to start off. And for PCT - post cycle therapy - thats way to much clomid??? 50mg ED of clomid for 4 weeks is plenty.

i was just about to say this.

i think he's trying to do too much for a first cycle. if you get any major sides (or major gains for that matter) how the hell are you gonna be able to tell which compound it is? keep it simple stupid for the first time and add in additional compounds at a later time:

1-10 test e 500mg/ew
1-10 adex .5mg/eod
12-15 nolva 40-40-20-20

guaranteed 10-15lbs, brother.

~Alc

 

[xrsist]

Bros this is his FIRST cycle. Bro dont try trenbolone right away. Go with a simple testosterone enanthate cycle to start off. And for PCT - post cycle therapy - thats way to much clomid??? 50mg ED of clomid for 4 weeks is plenty.

agreed, good advise there

 

[trowsersnake98]

i was just about to say this.

i think he's trying to do too much for a first cycle. if you get any major sides (or major gains for that matter) how the hell are you gonna be able to tell which compound it is? keep it simple stupid for the first time and add in additional compounds at a later time:

1-10 testosterone enanthate 500mg/ew
1-10 Arimidex - anastrozole - .5mg/eod
12-15 Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 40-40-20-20

guaranteed 10-15lbs, brother.

~Alc

good call alcatraz.

you need to know which drugs do what to your body. and wait and the tren bro. some saw its the best drug out there so save it for last, see what you can get from everything else before you try it. my "rat" is about to do its 6th cycle and this will be its first tren run.

IMO 4 week cycles are pointless. they dont give anything time to kick in. 6 would be the minimum IMO.

 

[xrsist]

alcatraz, navigattors and trowsersnake, all sensible bros there. i dont see the logic in people recommending 2-3-4 coumpounds for a first run (maybe thats the big tough thing to do where they come from). test with an AI and p c t and a clean diet with solid training and plenty of rest and that is all you will need.

 

[trowsersnake98]

you will get great gains off test only with an AI. my rats first run was primobolan only at 400mg a week and it gained nearly 20lbs. not all clean weight but, some good quality muscle for sure.

 

[xX3mptyWordsXx]

Bros!

The point of me trying a 4 week cycle. Not long esters.. usually long esters take longer for the side effects to go away, I cant risk being on a long ester that may fuck me up. I rather in ject evey 2 days with shorts esters that will be out of my system by the end of a full week. Also! being my 1st cycle... I will def. be getting some intense gains....

So give me some more info on what you guys think of these cycles...

 

[BigGuyinRI]

i was just about to say this.

i think he's trying to do too much for a first cycle. if you get any major sides (or major gains for that matter) how the hell are you gonna be able to tell which compound it is? keep it simple stupid for the first time and add in additional compounds at a later time:

1-10 testosterone enanthate 500mg/ew
1-10 Arimidex - anastrozole - .5mg/eod
12-15 Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 40-40-20-20

guaranteed 10-15lbs, brother.

~Alc

Exactly. Go with the 10 week Test E to start.

 

[Acela]

Bro, 300 mgs of clomid ED is just asking for problems

 

[xX3mptyWordsXx]

its 300mg of clomid 1st day then aftger is 100and then it drops to 50mg.. til day 21...

 

[boyer]

Like some of the others have said test only for a first cycle. I would do prop 150 mg eod, than run your clomid three days after your last shot. Personally I would go longer than 4 weeks though.

 

[Acela]

its 300mg of clomid 1st day then aftger is 100and then it drops to 50mg.. til day 21...

i understand that Bro, you could still have a miserable experience . the standard protocol is 50 mg ED for 20-30 days starting depends on what esters you are running.

plus on a 4 week cycle that is WAY overkill

 

[chestrockwell420]

looks like good replies here.start with some test and save tren for another run.also 4 weeks wont do shit unless you keep it going on and off maybe.run test at least 8 weeks and eat big, you should like the results.save proviron for pct.goodluck

 

[alcatraz1662]

Bros!

The point of me trying a 4 week cycle. Not long esters.. usually long esters take longer for the side effects to go away, I cant risk being on a long ester that may fuck me up. I rather in ject evey 2 days with shorts esters that will be out of my system by the end of a full week. Also! being my 1st cycle... I will def. be getting some intense gains....

So give me some more info on what you guys think of these cycles...

okay.....well then in that case i think those cycles suck. yes long esters take longer for the side effects to go away, but how the hell would you know if this is your first cycle?!.... you have no idea that you will get any sides at all from 500mg of test.....with .5mg of Arimidex - anastrozole - , most people don't see any...

and trust me.....you have a greater chance of getting fucked up from a Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and trenbolone cycle WITHOUT test than you would a test only cycle. we're here to help man and you're here to get help. some really experienced bros here giving you some good advice....take heed.

~Alc