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cycles effect hormone levels forever?

enacer420nj said:
Fuck It, now you have a reason to juice !!!! TESTOSTERONY FOR LIFE YOHZ jk lol

i did not know tren fucked up the hormones, but i really aint trippin either, all they gotta do is give me the lab work and a diagnosis, if it is a hormone problem i know the cure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;-)

actually though my lab work shows free test level of 475 ng/dl when the range is 250-1100 ng/dl. to me that is a problem, mine better be at the high end or i will address the issue myself

anyway thanks for all the imput
 
i have a feeling if you've been on and are getting the blood work now you may have fucked yourself up. the winstrol could have eaten up your good cholesterol and if your off in that they wont prescribe a test. at least the good ones should't until those numbers balance out. i know myself and numerous friends who have had crazy bad blood work from winstrol 4 weeks post cycle. never taking it again. o hdl, 191 ldl was mine.

i dont know many people who would run that cycle. but i do understand using it in contest prep. to do what your trying to do you picked a terrible choice. you could have gotten the hrt effect with 300 mgs of test and had no sides. now your progesterone is going to be effected and the winstrol is heavily hpta suppressive.
 
timtim said:
i have a feeling if you've been on and are getting the blood work now you may have fucked yourself up. the winstrol could have eaten up your good cholesterol and if your off in that they wont prescribe a test. at least the good ones should't until those numbers balance out. i know myself and numerous friends who have had crazy bad blood work from winstrol 4 weeks post cycle. never taking it again. o hdl, 191 ldl was mine.

i dont know many people who would run that cycle. but i do understand using it in contest prep. to do what your trying to do you picked a terrible choice. you could have gotten the hrt effect with 300 mgs of test and had no sides. now your progesterone is going to be effected and the winstrol is heavily hpta suppressive.

you guys are a little more advanced than me. i really dont know the perfect cycles, i am kinda self taught and was doing the anadrol to put on muscle and strenth, and the winstrol to cut up. that is what i did when i started and it worked so i didnt study too much more. but i am now

my blood tests were done before my cycle and they did a bunch so i dont think the endo doc will order any. then i will go to a doc that does not know me and have my on aas tests done under a differnt name. i want them for my info, but i am not lettin my medical records get crazy they haunt you. A friend of mine has his doc hooking him up with gyno surgery, aldactone all that because the doc thinks it is natural and the insurance is buying:-)
 
Triple J said:
primo is safe but we always recommend at least some T with any cycle. for a nice dry cycle run some proviron with the primo, unless prone to mpb
Yeah, t with anycycles is like brushing your teeth, do it without thinking, it should be automatic.

Now none of us being doctors, and there not being conclusive evidence since aas in most cases are perscribed for hrt anyway, there is no way to know for sure.
 
I think you are freaking out over being 33. Your test levels aren't that low. Test levels go up and down all the time. I am willing to bet that if you had them taken over time it would average out to normal. Just remember the addage 30 is the oldage of youth and forty is the youth of old age. You're just hitting the oldage of youth. Don't worry to much about it, it gets worse.
 
taste-icles said:
Yeah, t with anycycles is like brushing your teeth, do it without thinking, it should be automatic.

Now none of us being doctors, and there not being conclusive evidence since aas in most cases are perscribed for hrt anyway, there is no way to know for sure.

hey i got some questions about the whole synovex test prop thing. do you know what i am talking about? can i ask how to take out the estrogen in it? i have never done test but am about to modify my plans and knowledge
 
ibn said:
hey i got some questions about the whole synovex test prop thing. do you know what i am talking about? can i ask how to take out the estrogen in it? i have never done test but am about to modify my plans and knowledge
I think that there are some people more knowledgable in this subject than I so I will let someone else step up to answer that.

I just read above. You're 33 and worried about this? I am going to be 33 in the fall and have run some occasional t only cycles twice a year for many years, and my w/o partner is 36, he has done 4 cycles with heavy test every year from ages 25-32 and he currently tests his t levels as just fine for his age. I check out just fine too. So from observed usage, I don't think so. I have also never heard of anyone saying anything and the guys I hang out with are always on test, competitive and when those days go by, they go natty and never complain to the younger guys.

Coincidence is a possibility, then again you could be a rare enough case where you do get effected.
 
taste-icles said:
I think that there are some people more knowledgable in this subject than I so I will let someone else step up to answer that.

I just read above. You're 33 and worried about this? I am going to be 33 in the fall and have run some occasional t only cycles twice a year for many years, and my w/o partner is 36, he has done 4 cycles with heavy test every year from ages 25-32 and he currently tests his t levels as just fine for his age. I check out just fine too. So from observed usage, I don't think so. I have also never heard of anyone saying anything and the guys I hang out with are always on test, competitive and when those days go by, they go natty and never complain to the younger guys.

Coincidence is a possibility, then again you could be a rare enough case where you do get effected.

whats yours or your buddys test levels??
 
ibn said:
whats yours or your buddys test levels??
I am not sure the actual numbers as he is on vacation at the moment, but his last work up 3 months ago reported back at 'average' for his age. Close bro for like 8 years so I know he ain't bullshitting me. Good to have a workout partner to keep us both honest. a "life spotter" lol He came by my house and took away all my DNP and let's me know when I am looking f'd up when on some cycles, esp those involving halo.
 
taste-icles said:
I am not sure the actual numbers as he is on vacation at the moment, but his last work up 3 months ago reported back at 'average' for his age. Close bro for like 8 years so I know he ain't bullshitting me. Good to have a workout partner to keep us both honest. a "life spotter" lol He came by my house and took away all my DNP and let's me know when I am looking f'd up when on some cycles, esp those involving halo.


i think this may all be for not. i am only 2 weeks into a little cycle and am feeling good. once i finish and do my pct i will go have some blood work again. i am seeing a endo soon, but it is summer and i was pretty sure i knew the problem. i am going back to my old routine, and methods for awhile then get some blood work once i get my summer suit on:-)
 
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