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Dunno how to answer your specific question. Just wanted to question the clen. IMHO it is GARBAGE.
Please don't take this the wrong way but from your posts I can tell that you desperately want to win this upcoming event and have worked very hard to do well. But don't you think that maybe you would be better served if you took a step back and gained some perspective? You seem to be willing to do JUST ABOUT ANYTHING and that is unhealthy.
Listen to what I am going to say very carefully because I am not exaggerating.
"Is YOUR LIFE worth risking for a local level amatuer show? Is your health worth risking to MAYBE get a trophy?"
I didn't take all of the agents that you are talking about when I did my last competition. It was my 3rd and final show. I got a HYUGE cramp in my glute/hamstring while standing onstage sweating bullets, severely dehydrated waiting for the fucking dumbass MC (A fuckstick by the name of Kenny Kassel that everyone who knows anything about fitness modeling/competition on the east coast - the dude is THE HYUGEST FUCKING LOSER PROMOTER/MGR period) kept rambling about dumb shit while the competitors were DYING... "JUST GIVE US OUR FUCKING TROPHIES SO WE DONT DIE HERE."
As I limped off stage I collapsed and everyone rushed to give me water. The cramp was severe... unbelievably painfull. What didn't occur to me until much later (and just one of the reasons why I stopped competing) what if it was not my glute/hamstring that cramped up? What if it were a "more important muscle"? What is if it was MY HEART that cramped up?
I don't mean to sound alarmist. I only want to help.
Please don't take this the wrong way but from your posts I can tell that you desperately want to win this upcoming event and have worked very hard to do well. But don't you think that maybe you would be better served if you took a step back and gained some perspective? You seem to be willing to do JUST ABOUT ANYTHING and that is unhealthy.
Listen to what I am going to say very carefully because I am not exaggerating.
"Is YOUR LIFE worth risking for a local level amatuer show? Is your health worth risking to MAYBE get a trophy?"
I didn't take all of the agents that you are talking about when I did my last competition. It was my 3rd and final show. I got a HYUGE cramp in my glute/hamstring while standing onstage sweating bullets, severely dehydrated waiting for the fucking dumbass MC (A fuckstick by the name of Kenny Kassel that everyone who knows anything about fitness modeling/competition on the east coast - the dude is THE HYUGEST FUCKING LOSER PROMOTER/MGR period) kept rambling about dumb shit while the competitors were DYING... "JUST GIVE US OUR FUCKING TROPHIES SO WE DONT DIE HERE."
As I limped off stage I collapsed and everyone rushed to give me water. The cramp was severe... unbelievably painfull. What didn't occur to me until much later (and just one of the reasons why I stopped competing) what if it was not my glute/hamstring that cramped up? What if it were a "more important muscle"? What is if it was MY HEART that cramped up?
I don't mean to sound alarmist. I only want to help.
I understand what you are saying, but I still want to do the competition. I still have 4 weeks and I think I will be ready. Yes I am putting in alot of hard work but at the end of the day its worth it to me. Im sorry that happened to you....hopefully it wont to me. That is why I ask so many questions and try to stay on top of things as much as possible. Thank you for caring but I kindof feel like everytime I post on this board its more discouraging than supporting.
Are you taking topamax for migrains? Wellbutrin is an antidepressant correct? Most antidepressant will list may cause weight gain or loss.
topamax is for migraines but a side effect is weight loss...but I really havent seen that. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't counteracting with the aas im taking. I am on a low dosage. Wellbutrin is known to cause more weight loss than weight gain. It increases dopamine and I could reduce the dosage if I knew if something was interfering. I hate to without knowing though because if it does cause weight loss and I reduce then I might gain before the show.
Are either of them perscibed for a medical reason?
Bikini Mod
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I am sorry that you feel that way as that is NOT our intent (specifically not mine).
I have never been one to give the answers that one would like to hear. A person who genuinely cares about you as a human being wouldn't do that.
I am happy to hear that you are on top of things and investigating every aspect of what you are doing to your body. I was on top of things too. As I said, I wasn't taking any agents at the time.... and I still had a severe cramp due to dehydration.
I hope that this whole experience will be one that is a positive experience for you regardless of how you place.
I do hope you win, of course.Thanks bikinimom, I think some times I just need to hear encouragement because I am working so hard. I do feel like I know my body very well and know my limits, but I am aware that something always can happen to anyone. I have seen lots of improvement and have lost alot of bodyfat. I get it rechecked next week. So as long as I see progress I am going to keep going for it.
Yes the topamax for migraines 50 mg is very small dosage. And the Wellbutrin for a nuerotransmitter imbalance prescribed by naturopathic dr. several years ago. Since i have been on it my moods are stable and just alot better feeling of wellbeing.
Thanks
Yes the topamax for migraines 50 mg is very small dosage. And the Wellbutrin for a nuerotransmitter imbalance prescribed by naturopathic dr. several years ago. Since i have been on it my moods are stable and just alot better feeling of wellbeing.
Thanks
Bikini Mod
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I'm happy to hear that you are making progress. The entire board is here to cheer you on.
Tatyana
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Elaborate on that please, it sounds like it is something more people should be aware of.
Clar, I would also recommend that you take a liver support,especially if your cycle is orals.
Stories of how people gain tons of weight on certain SSRI's...I have been on Wellbutrin for a long time but I just didn't know if it would affect how the other things I was taking would work. I never gained weight off of it.
I have always heard take milk thistle after your cycle, that was what i was planning on doing. Do you think I should do it while? I have 3 and half weeks left.
Thanks.
I have always heard take milk thistle after your cycle, that was what i was planning on doing. Do you think I should do it while? I have 3 and half weeks left.
Thanks.
Hi guys, I just wanted to throw my 2cents out there. Im prescribed wellbutrin xl 150, and I've been eating like a mad man, all healthy. It makes me hungry. Im also on Seroquel.I would like to take cyclotren does anyone see any issues with taking that along with my medication?
p.s. Wellbutrin has saved my life, I feel so confident, good, sense of wellbeing, everything.
Clar- didnt mean to hijack your thread..but to answer your question, I would highly recommend you run milk thistle throughout your cycle, not after.
p.s. Wellbutrin has saved my life, I feel so confident, good, sense of wellbeing, everything.
Clar- didnt mean to hijack your thread..but to answer your question, I would highly recommend you run milk thistle throughout your cycle, not after.
Its going great...here is a picture 3 weeks out.
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq332/oklahomaprincess/IMG01810.jpg
My internet has been down for like 5 days so thanks for asking.
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq332/oklahomaprincess/IMG01810.jpg
My internet has been down for like 5 days so thanks for asking.
slat1
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Do not reduce the Wellbutrin. Your Dr prescribed the amount for a reason. It seems you are having good results with it.
I don't think a $10 trophy is worth playing around with your meds!
Thanks,
I decided to just stick to the carb roll of 0 0 0 75. my trainer didn't want me to do a keto diet because she was aftraid I would lose muscle. I think I just panicked because i hit a plateau.
Havent had any sides yet. Crossing my fingers! I am taking a good liver support and watching myself very closely though. Thanks for the encouragement
I decided to just stick to the carb roll of 0 0 0 75. my trainer didn't want me to do a keto diet because she was aftraid I would lose muscle. I think I just panicked because i hit a plateau.
Havent had any sides yet. Crossing my fingers! I am taking a good liver support and watching myself very closely though. Thanks for the encouragement
slat1
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Keto diets are not easy. There is science behind why you will not actually lose muscle. It has to do with your body increasing its GH output. I used it once and freaked out when I lost 22lbs in two weeks. I gained almost all of it back the following two weeks as the fatty acids replaced the lost glycogen. Still it was hard to watch happen.
I thought you looked great in your picture. My first thought was you don't need any AAS. The reason is the higher end shows (NPC) are putting an emphasis on softening up a bit. If you get grainy it may be used against you. Talk to the judges before your show and let them know you want feedback. Otherwise they might not take notes.
Best of luck with the rest of your training and your competition.
I thought you looked great in your picture. My first thought was you don't need any AAS. The reason is the higher end shows (NPC) are putting an emphasis on softening up a bit. If you get grainy it may be used against you. Talk to the judges before your show and let them know you want feedback. Otherwise they might not take notes.
Best of luck with the rest of your training and your competition.
thanks for the replies...as far as taking aas, i think i still am going to come in looking alittle soft. Im hoping this is what the judges want. i have a week and a half left, and this is the hardest week ever. My trainer made me stop stevia and chewing gum, im basically living off of fish and zucchini and water. Is this normal to not be able to chew gum 2 weeks out? I guess she doesnt want me to put anything artificial in my body.
slat1
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Gum can destroy your results if you are trying to get really lean. Colette Nelson is a good example. She followed Dave's diet to a "T" and did not get completely dialed in. When they looked over everything he found out she was chewing gum a few times a day and the contents were messing with her body.
Bikini Mod
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My dear, you NEVER know what the judges "du jour" want. As long as you are completely satisfied with your training/diet/result then you have won. I realize these are hollow words that fall on deaf ears of the competitor who did NOT win, but for those of us who have been there/done that you will hear that time and time again. From the one pic you posted you looked figure competition ready.... that is one pic. I am not here to blow smoke up your rear, just being honest.
Botton line is that you will never know what the judges from ANY competition will value until after the competition is over. I don't mean to sound like granny gloom and doom, but one thing you will NEVER hear from me, is BS.
Seriously, from what you posted, you looked good.
Please let us know how you did and if you would like further guidance. Every competition is a learnining experience.
Botton line is that you will never know what the judges from ANY competition will value until after the competition is over. I don't mean to sound like granny gloom and doom, but one thing you will NEVER hear from me, is BS.
Seriously, from what you posted, you looked good.
Please let us know how you did and if you would like further guidance. Every competition is a learnining experience.
My dear, you NEVER know what the judges "du jour" want. As long as you are completely satisfied with your training/diet/result then you have won. I realize these are hollow words that fall on deaf ears of the competitor who did NOT win, but for those of us who have been there/done that you will hear that time and time again. From the one pic you posted you looked figure competition ready.... that is one pic. I am not here to blow smoke up your rear, just being honest.
Botton line is that you will never know what the judges from ANY competition will value until after the competition is over. I don't mean to sound like granny gloom and doom, but one thing you will NEVER hear from me, is BS.
Seriously, from what you posted, you looked good.
Please let us know how you did and if you would like further guidance. Every competition is a learnining experience.
^^^I agree with Bikini^^^
I really wish you do well. I worked very hard at it!
Exactly if a lot of harder girls show up then they might place them higher but if it is more softer girls they might place them higher really judging in figure is a crap shot so do the best you can.
