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[clar]

does anyone know if topamax or wellbutrin interfere with winstrol or clen? Like maybe not getting the most out of a cycle

 

[Bikini Mod]

Dunno how to answer your specific question. Just wanted to question the clen. IMHO it is GARBAGE.

Please don't take this the wrong way but from your posts I can tell that you desperately want to win this upcoming event and have worked very hard to do well. But don't you think that maybe you would be better served if you took a step back and gained some perspective? You seem to be willing to do JUST ABOUT ANYTHING and that is unhealthy.

Listen to what I am going to say very carefully because I am not exaggerating.

"Is YOUR LIFE worth risking for a local level amatuer show? Is your health worth risking to MAYBE get a trophy?"

I didn't take all of the agents that you are talking about when I did my last competition. It was my 3rd and final show. I got a HYUGE cramp in my glute/hamstring while standing onstage sweating bullets, severely dehydrated waiting for the fucking dumbass MC (A fuckstick by the name of Kenny Kassel that everyone who knows anything about fitness modeling/competition on the east coast - the dude is THE HYUGEST FUCKING LOSER PROMOTER/MGR period) kept rambling about dumb shit while the competitors were DYING... "JUST GIVE US OUR FUCKING TROPHIES SO WE DONT DIE HERE."

As I limped off stage I collapsed and everyone rushed to give me water. The cramp was severe... unbelievably painfull. What didn't occur to me until much later (and just one of the reasons why I stopped competing) what if it was not my glute/hamstring that cramped up? What if it were a "more important muscle"? What is if it was MY HEART that cramped up?

I don't mean to sound alarmist. I only want to help.

 

[clar]

I understand what you are saying, but I still want to do the competition. I still have 4 weeks and I think I will be ready. Yes I am putting in alot of hard work but at the end of the day its worth it to me. Im sorry that happened to you....hopefully it wont to me. That is why I ask so many questions and try to stay on top of things as much as possible. Thank you for caring but I kindof feel like everytime I post on this board its more discouraging than supporting.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Are you taking topamax for migrains? Wellbutrin is an antidepressant correct? Most antidepressant will list may cause weight gain or loss.

 

[clar]

topamax is for migraines but a side effect is weight loss...but I really havent seen that. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't counteracting with the aas im taking. I am on a low dosage. Wellbutrin is known to cause more weight loss than weight gain. It increases dopamine and I could reduce the dosage if I knew if something was interfering. I hate to without knowing though because if it does cause weight loss and I reduce then I might gain before the show.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

topamax is for migraines but a side effect is weight loss...but I really havent seen that. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't counteracting with the aas im taking. I am on a low dosage. Wellbutrin is known to cause more weight loss than weight gain. It increases dopamine and I could reduce the dosage if I knew if something was interfering. I hate to without knowing though because if it does cause weight loss and I reduce then I might gain before the show.

Are either of them perscibed for a medical reason?

 

[Bikini Mod]

I understand what you are saying, but I still want to do the competition. I still have 4 weeks and I think I will be ready. Yes I am putting in alot of hard work but at the end of the day its worth it to me. Im sorry that happened to you....hopefully it wont to me. That is why I ask so many questions and try to stay on top of things as much as possible. Thank you for caring but I kindof feel like everytime I post on this board its more discouraging than supporting.

I am sorry that you feel that way as that is NOT our intent (specifically not mine).

I have never been one to give the answers that one would like to hear. A person who genuinely cares about you as a human being wouldn't do that.

I am happy to hear that you are on top of things and investigating every aspect of what you are doing to your body. I was on top of things too. As I said, I wasn't taking any agents at the time.... and I still had a severe cramp due to dehydration.

I hope that this whole experience will be one that is a positive experience for you regardless of how you place. I do hope you win, of course.

 

[clar]

Thanks bikinimom, I think some times I just need to hear encouragement because I am working so hard. I do feel like I know my body very well and know my limits, but I am aware that something always can happen to anyone. I have seen lots of improvement and have lost alot of bodyfat. I get it rechecked next week. So as long as I see progress I am going to keep going for it.

Yes the topamax for migraines 50 mg is very small dosage. And the Wellbutrin for a nuerotransmitter imbalance prescribed by naturopathic dr. several years ago. Since i have been on it my moods are stable and just alot better feeling of wellbeing.

Thanks

 

[Tatyana]

Your body has probably got a good homeostatsis with the drugs as long as you are not missing tablets, I wouldn't mess with them.

I don't think that they would interfere with steroids as they don't have the same receptors.

 

[clar]

thanks tatanya