cycle thoughts

[maxwkw]

age 25
height 5'4
weight 155
bf 15% (hopefully around 12 by the start of this cycle)

on prescribed androgel 5g/day (going to get changed over to injections soon)

proposed cutting/strength cycle
test cyp 500mg weeks 1-10
t-bol 100mg weeks 1-5
masteron 200mg weeks 1-10
proviron 75mg weeks 5-10 (still undecided on this one.)

 

[thelocal]

have u ever doen tbol before?100mgs ed is on the high side

 

[maxwkw]

Never done tbol. Maybe I should drop it to 50mg

 

[thelocal]

yea if u never done it defff start off at 50mgs e/d

 

[EZ_E]

What's your cycle history?

~EZ

 

[maxwkw]

This would be my first injectable cycle

 

[shibs]

That's a lot of compounds for a first inj. cycle bro. But to each his own.

 

[Black Boxster]

age 25
height 5'4
weight 155
bf 15% (hopefully around 12 by the start of this cycle)

on prescribed androgel 5g/day (going to get changed over to injections soon)

proposed cutting/strength cycle
test cyp 500mg weeks 1-10
t-bol 100mg weeks 1-5
masteron 200mg weeks 1-10
proviron 75mg weeks 5-10 (still undecided on this one.)

What was your first cycle like??? Orals only?? what and how much??? I would like to see your BF to 12% or under before your start a cycle...too many health risk if you are over weight...( sorry bro...not calling you fat...)

Personally, for cutting, I like Test E 500 wk, with 2wks of Dbol to "jump start", followed by the remainder of my cycle with Oral Winstrol at 40mg ED. I would run proviron through the complete cycle for 50mg ed...Im a huge believer in using proviron in all Test based cycles...

I think the cycle you proposed is too much for a first cycle.

but why the androgel unless you are on TRT and have low testosterone already?? Get some blood test.....post the results before you decide to go on a cycle...

 

[maxwkw]

I've done a few oral only cycles before.

I'm working on getting my bf down. (only on a bodybuilding forum would somebody with "fuzzy" abs be called fat)

I am on TRT my total test is around 200 and free test is around 3. This was my blood work before the trt. I have another blood test coming up before I start the cycle at which point I plan on getting changed over to injectable test.

My doctor really wanted me to try the androgel before injectable, so I agreed to try it for a month.

I don't like the idea of dbol in a cutting cycle. From what I understand tbol is a dryer version of dbol. I am also a little weary of winstrol. So many people seem to have such bad sides from it.

I am thinking of simplifying down a bit though.

test cyp 500mg 1-10
tbol 50mg 1-5
proviron 50mg 1-10

(just looking for something else to give me a little help in fat loss)

 

[drew413]

That looks a lot better. Im not into cut cycles really, im more bulking. But someone will let you know what to use besides winstrol. In later cycles you can always use more but keep it simple with your first.

 

[C0LUMB0]

I've done a few oral only cycles before.

I'm working on getting my bf down. (only on a bodybuilding forum would somebody with "fuzzy" abs be called fat)

I am on TRT my total test is around 200 and free test is around 3. This was my blood work before the trt. I have another blood test coming up before I start the cycle at which point I plan on getting changed over to injectable test.

My doctor really wanted me to try the androgel before injectable, so I agreed to try it for a month.

I don't like the idea of dbol in a cutting cycle. From what I understand tbol is a dryer version of dbol. I am also a little weary of winstrol. So many people seem to have such bad sides from it.

I am thinking of simplifying down a bit though.

test cyp 500mg 1-10
tbol 50mg 1-5
proviron 50mg 1-10

(just looking for something else to give me a little help in fat loss)

Forget about mast and winny for the moment..its a bit of a worry that you were considering 100mg of tbol.


test cyp 500mg 1-10
tbol 50mg 1-5

looks fine...what does your diet and PCT look like ?

@155 for 15% sounds like you will be seriously light after cutting.

 

[maxwkw]

I hadn't read enough about tbol. I'm definitely set straight on a lower dose.

Since I'm on TRT I don't really have a strong need for a pct, I'll just go back to my regular TRT dose. At least this is what I understand. If I'm wrong please let me know.

I know I'm not very big. I'm a powerlifter who generally competes in the 148lb class. I do decently well here and I don't really want to go up to the 165 unless I can get a lot stronger.