cycle suggestions for 38 year old?

[mickjg]

After training naturally for the last 4 years, I'm contemplating taking the plunge and doing a number of cycles on a 6 week on/ 6 week off pattern. I have done about 30 cycles during the early-mid 90's, usually an average of 1,500 mg total weekly. My drugs of choice were Enanthate, Sus, Deca, DBol, and Equipoise. I used to take a kamikazee approach, heavy on the androgens, but I'm in my late 30's and due to a few minor health problems, feel I need to take a more conservative approach. I'd like to switch my focus from the androgens like test and DBol to Deca and Equipoise, keeping my weekly dosages to between 800-1000 mg weekly. I have access to most of the Mexican stuff. My best results have come from a descending type cycle, and heres a few examples on some stacks I'm contemplating...

1 400 mg Enanthate, 400 mg Deca
2 repeat
3 repeat
4 300 mg Enanthate, 300 mg Deca
5 200 mg Enanthate, 200 mg Deca
6 100 mg Enanthate, 100 mg Deca
7 50 mg Deca

1 40 mg DBol daily, 400 mg Deca weekly
2 repeat
3 repeat
4 25 mg DBol daily, 300 mg Deca weekly
5 15 mg DBol daily, 200 mg Deca weekly
6 10 mg DBol daily, 100 mg Deca weekly
7 50 mg Deca weekly

I'm not looking for the dramatic "25 lbs per cycle" gains that I made on my heavier cycles...I'm looking for more moderate, longer lasting gains.

I'm a bit out of the loop...any suggestions or comments?

 

[NYStrip]

Shit, 30 cycles? If you have been doing 6 on/6 off, that's like 4 cycles a year for 8 years straight. You know more than I do, but 6 weeks seems like no-man's land: just getting to where you're slamming your natural test, but not yet getting the full benefit of what you're replacing it with.

dbol/enanthate/eq for 10-12 weeks.

 

[TxLonghorn]

Well, if you aren't looking to 'blow up', I would lay off the dbol. Winny or oxandrolone will suit your needs better.

If taking deca, take winny. Oxandrolone (if you can afford it) should do well with everything else.

Also, at your age, and taking gear like deca, I strongly urge you to put some test in there at all, or most times.

I am not talking mega doses or anything, just 250-500mg/week is plenty. I myself prefer 250mg/week.

Primo is another good a.s. to consider, but it too is pricey.

Eq is another good one, and is very cheap. I would not recommend running it under 600mg/week though. Most recommend 400mg/week, and I did that and was VERY disappointed.

These are just some ideas, but they should be plenty to get you going.

Good luck.

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

I believe Test should be in every cycle, but particularly with men over 30. You're gonna shut down HPTA with Deca, EQ, ect. and your body will be at a Testosterone deficit-----not a good thing to acclimate your body to as you approach 40. Also, the added Test will do your body and state of well-being good and keep your sex life in tact. Consider using Arimidex to combat the androgenic sides that you are concerned with.

Personally, I would suggest Test/Arimidex or Test/EQ/Arimidex. Maybe kick start it with some Dbol or end the cycle with Winny. AraTest 2500 or Ttokkyo Cyp would the 2 primary Tests I would look for in MX, Ttokkyo Boldenon and Stanol V are very good. My Dbol favorite is Loeffler's 25mg tabs.

Another option to consider is Test/Oxandrolone/Arimidex if you want to stay on the more mild side.

Last thing, if you use an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex or Proviron and use clomid post cycle, there is no need to taper dosages.

 

[mickjg]

re

Great suggestions, guys. I'm trying to reeducate myself (although things havent changed much, theres new goodies out there). This forum looks like a great resource.

Pimpin...
Arimidex is hard to find, but Proviron and Clomid are available. What are your dosage suggestions on Proviron and Clomid? Proviron throughout the cycle, Clomid 2 weeks post cycle... No need to taper w/ Proviron, keep the dosage at 800-1000mg throughout?

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

Re: re

Pimpin...
Arimidex is hard to find, but Proviron and Clomid are available. What are your dosage suggestions on Proviron and Clomid? Proviron throughout the cycle, Clomid 2 weeks post cycle... No need to taper w/ Proviron, keep the dosage at 800-1000mg throughout?

Proviron at 25-50mg ED is fine. Pick up some Nolvadex as well down there----either keep handy or maybe take 20mg ED or EOD to keep estrogenic effects suppressed. Keep dosages constant, and I usually go 3 weeks with Clomid, 300mg Day 1, 100mg Day 2-10, and 50mg Day 11-21.