cycle idea

[superspud]

Alright guys i'm 21.. been lifting for couple years recently in the past year alot and i mean alot.

bout 5'8 175lbsish.. bf.. no real idea..

week: dosage
1-4: dbol 30mg
1-12: eq 600 ew
8-12: 40mg win
1-15: 500 ius hcg
15-15: 40mg novl
16-18: 20ng novl

first cycle... feedback? additions/subtractions? thanks i know i'm 21 yes young yes i know i don't need troll trolling thanks.

 

[RADAR]

Alright guys i'm 21.. been lifting for couple years recently in the past year alot and i mean alot.

bout 5'8 175lbsish.. bf.. no real idea..

week: dosage
1-4: dbol 30mg
1-12: eq 600 ew
8-12: 40mg win
1-15: 500 ius hcg
15-15: 40mg novl
16-18: 20ng novl

first cycle... feedback? additions/subtractions? thanks i know i'm 21 yes young yes i know i don't need troll trolling thanks.

Do more research..........Thats to stinkin much for a first cycle. Gezz.


RADAR

 

[superspud]

Do more research..........Thats to stinkin much for a first cycle. Gezz.


RADAR

this cycle was actully referred to me by a very reputable person on here :-/

 

[The Terminator]

No testosterone?

 

[RADAR]

I agree with terminator, why not just keeping it simple and run test at 500 wk jump start with Dbol the first 4-5 wks if you wish.


RADAR

 

[georgie24]

WHAT THE FUCK keep it simple
1-4 dbol
1-12 600 mg eq
1-12 test

?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????

 

[wnt2bBeast]

I agree with terminator, why not just keeping it simple and run test at 500 wk jump start with Dbol the first 4-5 wks if you wish.


RADAR

Yep..First cycle is so easy...Test..plain and simple..a little test and some water and grow like a weed

 

[Paulo]

Do more research..........Thats to stinkin much for a first cycle. Gezz.


RADAR

Are you saying that 600mg EW of EQ is too much? or that there are too many compounds? There are only 3. Dbol frontload, then winny at the end to keep the levels up until PCT. Or is it the hcg? I recommend that because of the lack of test in the cycle.

I was talking with the lad for some time yesterday and we were mulling over some ideas. ( I am the "reputable" person, lol, maybe he'll go back and edit that post, haha, since I am farrrr from reputable)

The thing is this, He isn't as interested in taking test right now, so that's why it is lacking there. I am not a steroid vet at all, nor do I claim to be. Which is why, I suggested he post this PRELIMINARY idea to get some feedback.

That's all it was meant to be, and he forgot to mention that apparently.

But, apart from changes in the dosages, maybe lowering the EQ to 400mg, I think its a solid cycle.

Maybe its the way that he worded it that makes it look really complicated but basically there are three compounds and two ancillaries.

Feel free to flame the shit out of me, lol. But, he wanted lean quality gains and I feel this is a good way to go about it.

Please don't hurt me...

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

I never like 12 week cycles for newbies (eq, test, whatever). I mean unless he is going to be competing why not just run some test for a few weeks like maybe 8 weeks @ 500mg. Piss on the dbol and winny for right now. Also the hcg 500iu EW, scratch that plan. Just run 500iu ED for 9-10 days Post cycle, (that is my suggestion on an 8 week cycle).

Not to say test plus dbol is not good, it is good. I bet if you eat right and train hard, 250mg of sustEW and 40 mg dbol ED will swell your ass up in 8 weeks. I have seen newbs grow on Dbol & Sust 250 over 8 weeks with good training and diet.

This doesn't even touch bloodwork, but if you want to do it right get your test levels checked before you inject anything. Then test them again post cycle. If this is your first cycle, that is all the more reason to have a baseline test on your blood.

 

[Paulo]

I never like 12 week cycles for newbies (eq, test, whatever). I mean unless he is going to be competing why not just run some test for a few weeks like maybe 8 weeks @ 500mg. Piss on the dbol and winny for right now. Also the hcg 500iu EW, scratch that plan. Just run 500iu ED for 9-10 days Post cycle, (that is my suggestion on an 8 week cycle).

Not to say test plus dbol is not good, it is good. I bet if you eat right and train hard, 250mg of sustEW and 40 mg dbol ED will swell your ass up in 8 weeks. I have seen newbs grow on Dbol & Sust 250 over 8 weeks with good training and diet.

This doesn't even touch bloodwork, but if you want to do it right get your test levels checked before you inject anything. Then test them again post cycle. If this is your first cycle, that is all the more reason to have a baseline test on your blood.

See, that is a quality post. Thanks bro

Maybe he will become more interested in running test. It would make things a little less complicated. I am running test cyp right now and aside from some oilier skin, I am doing ok. I am taking 1mg of liquidex EOD. But, then again I am taking it to replace a severe deficiency in my body, not for bodybuilding purposes.

We discussed 12 weeks because that seems to be the standard length for EQ usage. btw.

Bloodwork was also strongly suggested.

 

[Dial_tone]

With a first cycle on EQ I'll bet $50 that in weeks 3 & 5 he's back whining about the lack of noticeable gains. Do 400-500mg test/week with an anti-e on hand then PCT. How much size have you gained naturally so far? and puberty doesn't count.

 

[superspud]

With a first cycle on EQ I'll bet $50 that in weeks 3 & 5 he's back whining about the lack of noticeable gains. Do 400-500mg test/week with an anti-e on hand then PCT. How much size have you gained naturally so far? and puberty doesn't count.

past 2 years i've gone from 145lbs @ 7% bf to bout 170 @ unknown bf.. probably 12ish

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

With a first cycle on EQ I'll bet $50 that in weeks 3 & 5 he's back whining about the lack of noticeable gains.

true.