Cycle I will likely run/ tell me what you think

[Sherk]

It won't be too much. Running HCG is actually a smart thing to do. Ask any mod or well known vet on here. No disrespect to who told you not to. You can still recover without it but it most definitely will help with your recovery.

Run the HCGenerate while on your cycle, then run the HCG starting the last 2 weeks of your cycle through pct.

 

[TheSVPdeal]

What's your logic on why not to run the HCG? I'm just trying to understand why this would be too much.

He will be taking a mild dose of test for only 10 weeks, first. Second, he will be using HCGenerate throughout which will do well for his body's natural test production. With Unleashed to lower SHBG and Post Cycle AND Bridge to get HPTA back to normal working condition, I think that he will recover just fine.

 

[danoman27]

He will be taking a mild dose of test for only 10 weeks, first. Second, he will be using HCGenerate throughout which will do well for his body's natural test production. With Unleashed to lower SHBG and Post Cycle AND Bridge to get HPTA back to normal working condition, I think that he will recover just fine.

Interesting the various opinions I get from one person to another. I'll take whay you said into consideration. Thanks

Dan

 

[rich_89]

You should use HCG to kickstart your PCT mate. There's no sense in stopping it 2 weeks before you start pct. Also id run the AI all the way through the cycle. Don't want any water retention or bloat. Will keep you nice and dry.

You dont really need n2guard if you are not running an oral, unless money is no object. No liver stress with injectible aas. I know N2guard is a multivitamin, but its primarily liver support, so id leave it out and spend the money on extra aromasin.

 

[danoman27]

You should use HCG to kickstart your PCT mate. There's no sense in stopping it 2 weeks before you start pct. Also id run the AI all the way through the cycle. Don't want any water retention or bloat. Will keep you nice and dry.

You dont really need n2guard if you are not running an oral, unless money is no object. No liver stress with injectible aas. I know N2guard is a multivitamin, but its primarily liver support, so id leave it out and spend the money on extra aromasin.

Thanks Rich, this is helpful.

 

[needtogetaas]

Since you're only running test I would only run an AI if estro symptoms arise. It's up to you though. It's personal preference. For me I don't like to take more than I have to.

As far as pct everything looks good except the time you're starting. You don't want to start you pct while the test e is still in your system. I'd advise waiting 2 weeks after your last injection to allow the esters to completely leave your body.

If you bothered to look at the PCT that he set up you would see that its a 6 week pct not the normal 4 week pct. keeping estrogen levels low as the test levels start coming down is important and should start this right away. pct starts long before the cycle ends this is why we run hcgenerate and hcg during the cycle too.

Aromasin is added at week 6 around the time bloating would start to rear its head. Unlike other AI's aromasin does not lower IGF levels nor does it raise SHBG or cholesterol levels like other Ai;s do. Aromasin is simple keeping the cycle clean and dry well bringing estrogen back down to a normal level. If anyone here says estrogen builds muscle or higher than normal estrogen is a good thing I swear I will jump through the screen and punch them in the face!!!!

 

[needtogetaas]

I don't know if you're really gonna need the HCG. I would hold off on the aromasin in case you see some puffiness, which is likely. As soon as it appears, take 12.5mg every 3 days. If it doesn't clear, go to every other day. I also like to start forma during the last two weeks of my cycle at 5 pumps am and pm until gone. I start Bridge on day one after cycle. As for the S-4, keep in mind that is suppressive and you will want to be totally recovered before jumping on.

But I love your simple dose of test FTW and the fact that you are willing to do a proper PCT and keep the right ancillaries on hand.

The sarms is started 10 weeks after the cycle is over man I think he will be recovered by then lmao. Also your Idea for starting forma 2 weeks before cycle is over is doing almost the same thing as running the aromasin for the last 4 weeks is that is why I set it up like that for him lmao.. I do agree with prob not needing the hcg though.. That is the only thing I completely agree with..

Look danoman27 my friend everyone has their own way of doing things if they been around long enough and many of the people posting in this thread learned most if not all of what they know from me lol.. I set up cycles like the swiss make watches...PERFECTION!!! because I have studies every single last aspect of it for years and years 24 hours a day 7 days a week. For most this is a hoppy or a pass time for me this is not just my life stile its my job, my life, my friends, my entire world is here on the steroid forums.

So ya you will hear 80 thousand different ways of doing things but IMO stick with what I tell you and learn more as you go. SOme day you will have been around and doing this long enough to form your own Ideas and ways of doing things. Dont let all the different opinions change he way you got that cycle laid out.
and If you have any trouble you can call me personally and I will help you out. 978 378 4266 <-- my number

 

[needtogetaas]

You should use HCG to kickstart your PCT mate. There's no sense in stopping it 2 weeks before you start pct. Also id run the AI all the way through the cycle. Don't want any water retention or bloat. Will keep you nice and dry.

You dont really need n2guard if you are not running an oral, unless money is no object. No liver stress with injectible aas. I know N2guard is a multivitamin, but its primarily liver support, so id leave it out and spend the money on extra aromasin.

It almost looks like this cycle he has was meant to have a oral steroid in the first 4 weeks of it.. Im betting deiselbolan or something that causes a little bloat and estrogen than most... I just have that feeling when I look at it. I know its a cycle I laid out but it just looks like its missing the oral lol..

 

[gymjunkie09]

If anyone here says estrogen builds muscle or higher than normal estrogen is a good thing I swear I will jump through the screen and punch them in the face!!!!

lmao....I never understood the concept behind that myself

 

[danoman27]

It almost looks like this cycle he has was meant to have a oral steroid in the first 4 weeks of it.. Im betting deiselbolan or something that causes a little bloat and estrogen than most... I just have that feeling when I look at it. I know its a cycle I laid out but it just looks like its missing the oral lol..

If I'd like to stay as dry as possible would katanadrol be a good fit or do you think I should just go for the dieselbolan?