Cycle help...

[Klonds]

Wondering if you guys could help me out a bit. My stats are 5'10" 170lbs with 12% BF. I have been working out about 3-5 times a week for almost 2 years now. I am looking to hit around 185/190lbs. Not looking to go crazy.. just a small first cycle..
This is what i have right now.. (was all given to me)

D-Bol: 25mg/ed/week 1-4
Test Phenyloprop (sicomed): 300mg/week 1-8
Winstrol Depot (Zambon): 30mg/eod/week 8-12
Clomid therapy after week 12

Have both milk thistle and tyler liver detox for the D-bol

With such a small cycle.. should i even worry about Nolvadex?
Also, I have read about the Zambon being able to be taken orally, would you recommend that over injecting?

Any suggestions/recommendations? I know you guys wont hold back...

 

[2Bbigger]

For your first cycle I would drop the winny. As far as nolva goes, it is always good to have it on hand. You shouldn't need it with those doses but you never know. I know people who got gyno from 250mgs of test per week. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Klonds]

bump.. any other opinions?

thanks

 

[Klonds]

bump..

 

[jc21]

i believe test phenyl prop is a short acting ester so you will want to take this eod not once a week. and i agree either drop the winny or dbol, my choice would to drop the winny.

 

[Klonds]

So i guess 100mg/eod would be the better bet

Just curious to why you would drop the winny and not the d-ball and why not use both of them?

Also, cant the winny be taken orally?

Thanks for your help

 

[MUSTANG_18]

So i guess 100mg/eod would be the better bet

Just curious to why you would drop the winny and not the d-ball and why not use both of them?

Also, cant the winny be taken orally?

Thanks for your help

Maybe they suggested to drop the Winny because it is your first cycle and feel you don't need to add it, as you will grow very good off just the D-Bol and Test, which is true. I personally don't see a problem with adding it in there as well towards the end if you have it. I just don't see how your going to do 30mg/EOD since Zambons come in 50mg/ml vials, and 25mg/eod would be a waste IMO....Do 50mg/EOD for the last 5-6 weeks of your cycle. Yes it is 17aa and can be taken orally. As JC21 said, Phenyl Prop is a shorter acting ester so EOD injections are a must. Because it is your first cycle I am not sure if you would like to be poking yourself EOD, that is on you. Maybe a Single ester, longer acting Test such as Cyp or Enanthate would be better, it's up to you. Keep us posted

M18

 

[Klonds]

Well from what i read and others have posted i decided to go with 100mg/every 3 days... just took my first a little while ago.. ass is sore as hell, but oh well! guess i am going to have to get used to it. I don't know what i was thinking when i said 30mg considering it is 50mg's.. going to do that eod.. since i have it i think i am going to use it that is unless i gain more than i would like from the previous weeks, but i highly doubt that will be the case.. Thanks for your help

 

[jc21]

well i think dbol is a much better AS than winny so i would drop it. and there is just no need for 3 compounds in my opinion on your first cycle. just save your money and add it in your second cycle. but i know how it is to be impatient.

 

[Klonds]

Decided to go with this for now..


Test Phenyloprop (sicomed): 100mg every 3 days/ week 1-10
Winstrol Depot (Zambon): 50mg/eod/week 7-12
Clomid therapy after week 12


How does that look?.. already have the test underway..
I figure since this is my first that the amount of test is a little low but i will be able to see how my body reacts...

anyone?