Cycle Critique-Looking for Input

[Power36]

Primo+Var+Test+OT Kickstart

A lifetime lifter and athlete, 35yo, been in the iron game for more than 20 years at highly competitive levels most of the time. Some medical issues and multiple surgeries led to HRT...so its been about 5-6 months on HRT, and looking to "cycle" for 12 weeks.

From about 16 years old to 31 years old, I was always in the 235lbs to 245lbs range at 10%-12% Bodyfat. Serious medical issues wiped out training for 3 years, and my hormones and immune system. Been back to training for 8 months now, on HRT for about 5-6 months, and still trying to get back to what I was naturally my entire life. Im currently 240 lbs about 18-20% BF. Now before anyone flames the whole diet and cardio, dont do gear until your 15% or what not...I know how to train, diet, etc, and have been lean and BIG my entire life...my test, thyroid, cortisol, etc all shut down and due to illness and surgeries couldnt train for 3 years. So now Im on HRT, trying to get back to what I was naturally. If Im gonna be on HRT I thought I might as well spice it up. Id really appreciate any feedback or input.

Looking to maintain muscle mass and continue to drop bodyfat, not looking to get huge I already have good quality muscle mass.

400mg week Primo (HG legit)
50mg daily Anavar (HG), plus possibly add in 30mg UG lab Anavar for 80mg daily for last 6 weeks of cycle
200-300mg Test weekly
HCG 250iu 3x week
GH 2.5mg 3x week IM
T3/T4 4 grains daily (not for "fat burning" thats just what I need for my health)

Also considering kick starting it with 40mg daily Oral Turinabol for 3-4 weeks? Opinions on that?

Also, would there be a benefit in bumping up Test to 400-500mg weekly or since I am running Primo and Anavar 200-300mg weekly enough to maintain muscle and drop fat?

Since Im on HRT and am recovering from other health issues like Adrenal Fatigue, Ive been advised not to do calorie restricted diets. Just stick with lean meats, fish, veggies, and minimal fruit...but I cheat and eat rice only because its so darn easy...so lots of chicken and rice, protein shakes, lean beef, veggies...

 

[Power36]

No words of advice?

 

[RADAR]

Looks like over kill to me.


RADAR

 

[d_rson]

Re: Primo+Var+Test+OT Kickstart

Looking to maintain muscle mass and continue to drop bodyfat, not looking to get huge I already have good quality muscle mass.

400mg week Primo (HG legit)
50mg daily Anavar (HG), plus possibly add in 30mg UG lab Anavar for 80mg daily for last 6 weeks of cycle
200-300mg Test weekly
HCG 250iu 3x week
GH 2.5mg 3x week IM
T3/T4 4 grains daily (not for "fat burning" thats just what I need for my health)

Also considering kick starting it with 40mg daily Oral Turinabol for 3-4 weeks? Opinions on that?

The cycle doesn't look like it matches the goal. Like Radar said, looks way overkill, especially a kick start if you are just trying to maintain while you cut.

Honestly, if you are not going calorie restricted, I don't think you need AAS at all. OTC supps can take care of that.

 

[wolfman87]

i'd just run the test at 500mg/wk and that's it. with proper diet (doesn't matter how many calories you eat as long as their the right kind) you'll shred up and stay strong/big. for some reason people VASTLY under estimate the fat burning power of testosterone. i've never understood this.

 

[Power36]

Thanks guys for the input-Wolfman really appreciate it.

Radar id like your input since I see your knowledge in so many threads....

As far as AAS and using OTC supplements...aint gonna work...Im on HRT for a reason...OTC aint gonna do jack when my test, thyroid, and IGF-1 is already rock bottom from medical reasons...if I was healthy I wouldnt need any AAS...I was 245 lean as hell, squatting 600 ass to grass for reps, hang cleaning 350x5, deadlifting in the high 600s, etc etc etc all natural up until 31 years old with no AAS at all.....so if my body was good to go I wouldnt be on AAS and Id be happy as sh$t if I was still as big and strong as I used to be....

I was put on 300mg Test+300mg Deca to continue on and on....but from reading I thought staying on Deca forever as HRT wasnt smart...so I was dropping the Deca and gonna do the Primo instead....I also was prescribed 50mg Anavar daily so was just going to get UG stuff and bump it up....so basically yea Im on all this stuff for medical reasons, and was replacing the Primo with Deca on my own, the test and var Id be on anyways....

If its overkill please advise what you would suggest? Im all for bumping up the Test to 500mg....

as far as the calorie deficit thing....for anyone who has played or coached high level sports....you would know from experience, Im not saying whatever the science is, that guys can pound calories, as long as its clean, and still continue to get leaner, stronger, and looking damn good from doing heavy lifting and lots of speed/agility intervals and their sports practice...so dropping BF is possible without cutting calories, ive experienced it and seen it in hundreds of athletes...same with this whole cardio thing, Ive experienced myself, and coached hundreds of athletes, who drop tons of BF with no steady state cardio...just heavy ass lifting and sprints, speed work, agility work, etc...thats a whole other topic though!

Im not experienced with AAS so seriously appreciate input on that area!!

Bless ya Guys