cycle advice please

[living_legend2003]

Ok, here is the deal guys, im in this local 12 week competition, and there is no testing involved. I am 27 years old, and i weigh 230lbs, and i am in decent physical shape, but i do need to loose about 15lbs of fat, while still gaining some muscle. The comp is almost half way over, and i have been taking 450 to 500mg of deca for the entire time, i will run out with about with about 3 weeks to go. What i would like to know is how long will it take for any water retention that i might have accumulated, to naturally go away on its own. What is the downsides to water retention, and how will i know if i am retaining water? I am also going to start a 6 week cycle of winstrol next week if i can get my hands on it.
Last year i lost 35lbs, gained some muscle and got 7th place out of 12 contestants, and i was all natural, and as you can imagine, most that beat me, werent natural, so i plan on equaling up the score this time
I am mainly interested in water retention problems, but i would like any advice that anyone might have for me!! Thank You!!

P.S. I am also taking clenbuturol, and cytomel for fat loss!!

 

[anthony518]

You're taking all of that and you don't know anything about water retention? I would start a winny cycle next week either. What are you going to do after the deca is out of your system. It is really hard to recover from deca. PCT planned?

 

[living_legend2003]

You're taking all of that and you don't know anything about water retention? I would start a winny cycle next week either. What are you going to do after the deca is out of your system. It is really hard to recover from deca. PCT planned?

ok, so what do you suggest?? Wnat is PCT planned?? Im not familiar with these terms, this is my 1st forum so im not familiar with the terminology!! Im not too worred about what happens after the deca cause the competition will be over then. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks!!

 

[BigTmMan009]

You need to do a pct after the deca it really shuts you down and talk to Jenetic about the pct he knows.

 

[Indy]

ok, so what do you suggest?? Wnat is PCT planned?? Im not familiar with these terms, this is my 1st forum so im not familiar with the terminology!! Im not too worred about what happens after the deca cause the competition will be over then. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks!!

What they are trying to tell you is, Deca is very hard on the system, and it shuts you down. Without Post Cycle Therapy to jumpstart your body to start producing test on it own, you will go thru a horrific crash. Losing your gains will probably be the least of your worries and the depression and lethargy you get really make it so you dont give a shit anymore. Any planned cycle should have planned PCT BEFORE starting the cycle. Without it you are setting yourself up for failure in many more ways than one. Check out the PCT forum, and read some of Jenetic's posts, he is an expert in the field and would be happy to answer your questions. BUT do your research first and ask intelligent questions, know where you are going.

 

[Apexx]

Wnat is PCT planned?? Im not familiar with these terms, this is my 1st forum so im not familiar with the terminology!

check this out for pct

http://elitefitness.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=81

http://elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376177

 

[DaveTSI]

ok, so what do you suggest?? Wnat is PCT planned?? Im not familiar with these terms, this is my 1st forum so im not familiar with the terminology!! Im not too worred about what happens after the deca cause the competition will be over then. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks!!

lol not to worried huh, get back to us in about 2-3 months

 

[roidpuple]

winny and tren stack... that will make you happy

 

[living_legend2003]

I plan on taking clomid for test reproduction after the cycle, water retention is my main concern, because i feel a little bloated, and was wandering how long it would take for it to naturally go away after my cycle. Im sorry if my questions seem stupid, i think im just having a hard time wording them. Now that i know what pct means, i understand your replies, but i do have a pct plan, but it isnt as thought out as yours, it is just to take clomid directly after my cycle, but i have nothing, or know of nothing to ease water retention. Thanks Guys!!!