Cutting with test and nandrolone!

[zsimpson22]

Alright guys heres the deal. I'm going to be attempting a cut with test p, and NPP. 100mg of each EOD. I know these aren't ideal compounds for cutting, but I believe I can get this done. Plus with the short esters I'm hoping to minimize bloat. My question is mainly on diet. I've always been trying to bulk, so I only mainly kept up with protein and calories and let the rest fall into place on it's own. My goal is to maximize muscle, minimize fat (all of our goals I guess haha). So my assumption is that I need to lower carbs, lower calories, lower fat, and lower sodium. Is this accurate? And How do I do all this without getting major energy loss throughout the day? Thanks in advance guys.

 

[blue_steel74]

Alright guys heres the deal. I'm going to be attempting a cut with test p, and NPP. 100mg of each EOD. I know these aren't ideal compounds for cutting, but I believe I can get this done. Plus with the short esters I'm hoping to minimize bloat. My question is mainly on diet. I've always been trying to bulk, so I only mainly kept up with protein and calories and let the rest fall into place on it's own. My goal is to maximize muscle, minimize fat (all of our goals I guess haha). So my assumption is that I need to lower carbs, lower calories, lower fat, and lower sodium. Is this accurate? And How do I do all this without getting major energy loss throughout the day? Thanks in advance guys.

Man, honestly you shouldve posted this on the diet forum since its mainly abt diet. But ill do my best to help. I dont know if youre gonna be able to keep bloat down even with NPP, but AI's will help. As far as diet, it really depends on alot of thigs. I need your age, height, weight, and bodyfat if you know it to better assist you. But i will tell you this much, youre on the right track about your carbs, fats and sodium

 

[stevesmi]

you want to go no sugar, no salt.. and a lot of veggies, good fats, and protein

brown rice and sweet potato before and after your workout. maybe some plain greek yogurt if you buy the legit ones and not the cheap stuff. other than that no sugars whatsoever. that includes breads, potato's, oatmeal, rice, cake, ice cream, dairy, any of that shit.

 

[zsimpson22]

you want to go no sugar, no salt.. and a lot of veggies, good fats, and protein

brown rice and sweet potato before and after your workout. maybe some plain greek yogurt if you buy the legit ones and not the cheap stuff. other than that no sugars whatsoever. that includes breads, potato's, oatmeal, rice, cake, ice cream, dairy, any of that shit.

Alright thanks a lot bro. Really laid it out for me. What type of foods will give me this "no salt no sugar and good fats"? Just mainly vegetables?

 

[thelastmrbigg15]

fat is stored sugar and fatty acids... just a tip...and i was actually told by a friend... who is a bodybuilder and competes for def. he uses sustanon and deca ...

 

[RADAR]

Please read

You need at least 6-7 smaller servings per day with some protein in each., You can do this by eating clean whole foods,not processed.
Protein should come a variety of things.Seafood is one of the best sources of Protein because it's usually low in fat. Fish such as salmon is a little higher in fat but it is the heart-healthy kind: omega-3 fatty acids.

White-Meat Poultry
Stick to the white meat of poultry for excellent, lean Protein. Dark meat is higher in fat. The skin is loaded with saturated fat, so remove skin before cooking.

Milk, Cheese, and Yogurt
Not only are dairy foods -- like milk, cheese, and yogurt -- excellent sources of Protein but they also contain valuable calcium. Choose skim or low fat dairy to keep bones and teeth strong, prevent osteoporosis, and enhance weight loss.

Eggs
Eggs are one of the least expensive forms of Protein. The American Heart Association says normal healthy adults can safely enjoy an egg a day.

Beans
One-half cup of beans contains as much Protein as three ounces of broiled steak. Plus, these nutritious nuggets are loaded with fiber to keep you feeling full for hours.

Pork Tenderloin
This great and versatile white meat is 31% leaner than 20 years ago.

Soy
Twenty five grams of soy Protein daily can help lower cholesterol and reduce the risk of heart disease. Combine soy Protein foods like tofu with a healthy low fat diet.

Lean Beef
Lean beef has only one more gram of saturated fat than a skinless chicken breast. Lean beef is also an excellent source of zinc, iron, and vitamin b12.

Protein on the Go
Grab a meal replacement drink, cereal bar, or energy bar. Check the label to be sure the product contains at least six grams of Protein, and is low in sugar and fat.
Needtobuildmuscle has a wide variety of supplements that is an excellent source of nutrition.

Unstanding how to eat,The best way to provide the diet with complex carbohydrates is to consume foods in their most natural state such as oatmeal, bran and brown rice.
Bran

Wheatgerm

Barley

Maize

Buckwheat

Cornmeal

Oatmeal



The food list below shows good sources of complex carbohydrates.


Pasta

Macaroni
Spaghetti
Brown rice

Potatoes

Other root vegetables
Wholemeal breads

Granary bread

Brown bread

Pitta bread

Bagel

Wholegrain cereals

High fiber breakfast cereals

Porridge oats

All bran

Wheetabix

Shredded wheat

Ryvita crispbread

Muesli

Cassava

Corn
Yam

Oatcakes

Peas

Beans

Lentils

For energy you also need simple carbs thruout the day
Apples

Blackberries

Blackcurrants

Cherry

Cranberries

Grapefruit

Kiwi

Lemon

Melon

Oranges

Peach

Pear

Plum

Raspberries

Strawberries

Grapes

Raisins







RADAR

 

[thelastmrbigg15]

great post rad!

 

[RickRock13]

Radar Has really laid it out well for you here on the diet part

 

[zsimpson22]

Please read

You need at least 6-7 smaller servings per day with some protein in each., You can do this by eating clean whole foods,not processed.
Protein should come a variety of things.Seafood is one of the best sources of Protein because it's usually low in fat. Fish such as salmon is a little higher in fat but it is the heart-healthy kind: omega-3 fatty acids.

White-Meat Poultry
Stick to the white meat of poultry for excellent, lean Protein. Dark meat is higher in fat. The skin is loaded with saturated fat, so remove skin before cooking.

Milk, Cheese, and Yogurt
Not only are dairy foods -- like milk, cheese, and yogurt -- excellent sources of Protein but they also contain valuable calcium. Choose skim or low fat dairy to keep bones and teeth strong, prevent osteoporosis, and enhance weight loss.

Eggs
Eggs are one of the least expensive forms of Protein. The American Heart Association says normal healthy adults can safely enjoy an egg a day.

Beans
One-half cup of beans contains as much Protein as three ounces of broiled steak. Plus, these nutritious nuggets are loaded with fiber to keep you feeling full for hours.

Pork Tenderloin
This great and versatile white meat is 31% leaner than 20 years ago.

Soy
Twenty five grams of soy Protein daily can help lower cholesterol and reduce the risk of heart disease. Combine soy Protein foods like tofu with a healthy low fat diet.

Lean Beef
Lean beef has only one more gram of saturated fat than a skinless chicken breast. Lean beef is also an excellent source of zinc, iron, and vitamin b12.

Protein on the Go
Grab a meal replacement drink, cereal bar, or energy bar. Check the label to be sure the product contains at least six grams of Protein, and is low in sugar and fat.
Needtobuildmuscle has a wide variety of supplements that is an excellent source of nutrition.

Unstanding how to eat,The best way to provide the diet with complex carbohydrates is to consume foods in their most natural state such as oatmeal, bran and brown rice.
Bran

Wheatgerm

Barley

Maize

Buckwheat

Cornmeal

Oatmeal



The food list below shows good sources of complex carbohydrates.


Pasta

Macaroni
Spaghetti
Brown rice

Potatoes

Other root vegetables
Wholemeal breads

Granary bread

Brown bread

Pitta bread

Bagel

Wholegrain cereals

High fiber breakfast cereals

Porridge oats

All bran

Wheetabix

Shredded wheat

Ryvita crispbread

Muesli

Cassava

Corn
Yam

Oatcakes

Peas

Beans

Lentils

For energy you also need simple carbs thruout the day
Apples

Blackberries

Blackcurrants

Cherry

Cranberries

Grapefruit

Kiwi

Lemon

Melon

Oranges

Peach

Pear

Plum

Raspberries

Strawberries

Grapes

Raisins







RADAR

Damn man! Lol I really appreciate you taking the time to type this list out. I'll def go pick up as much of these foods as possible and get to eatin. Thanks again bro! And I'm also assuming I need to start adding in cardio to my plans? I do none whatsoever!

 

[training700]

Adding cardio will help a lot especially if are doing none now

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[RADAR]

Yes, morning cardio on an empty stomach 14-16 hrs from your last meal will do a hatchett job on BF.


Remember each serving size should be no larger than a tennis ball.

 

[RickRock13]

Yes, morning cardio on an empty stomach 14-16 hrs from your last meal will do a hatchett job on BF.


Remember each serving size should be no larger than a tennis ball.

Oh hell yeh! Morning fasted cardio is incredible for fat loss. The best and only kind I do!