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hello elite fitness, here to get some critique of the cutting stack i will be embarking on. goal will be recomp. will be competing at the end of this year. this cycle was suggested by my coach and i agree with it, but think it would be wise to get some advice from the outside.

current stats: 25, 5'11, 272, unsure of body fat. goal would be to cut down to around 260 and be in single digit body fat.

along with this cycle, i am running 4 iu hgh, 5 days on 2 days off. have been running for 4 months now. also am

the planned cycle looks like this

1-8, 200 mg test prop eod, 800 mg/week
1-8, 150 mg tren ace eod, 600 mg/week
1-8, 150 mg mast prop eod, 600 mg/week

have aromasin and caber on hand. after cycle i will be cruising on 250 mg a week of test cyp while continuing hgh and insulin. will then start another blast when competition draws near.

is there anything any of you would do different? thank you for your time.
 
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also to try to help. diet will be between 5000-6000 calories a day 40/40/20 split. weight training is one body part per day in the pm, with light cardio post workout or early in the am.
 
i was officially measured yesterday

5'11, 269, 11% body fat

tell me how many calories you need to maintain your weight?
 
bb240 said:
over 24 hours later and only 1 sarcastic response?
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Chill out dude not everyone is on EF 24-7....

If those stats are accurate that's a sick pre comp cycle....my question is have you run doses that high before
 
Those stats are sick. I am on a similar recomp only no hgh or insulin. I like injecting Ed vs EOD. My libido has been on fire with this cycle. Good luck.

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I'd run the prop at 300 week and the tren and mast at 800. I'd also stack some var or winny in there to finish. I'd also suggest n2guard to help keep health in check.
 
thank you for your answers and suggestions, i apologize for my impatience. to answer your questions. i have ran test as high as 1000 mg per week, and have ran tren and mast both a 600 in previous cycles. this is just a recomp cycle for the summer. i will not be going on stage until October. with the every other day injections and the daily injections of gh and insulin i already feel like a pin cushion. once competition draws nearer i will switch to pinning ed. the same with the orals. i do not plan on running any orals with this current cycle, but when it comes time to prepare for the stage i will add in both winstrol and halo. i am a bit cautious of upping the tren dose to 800 mg per week. inevitably i see myself needing to run it between 800 and a gram per week but not just yet. the addition of insulin has really allowed me to keep the gear dosages quite modest. why do you recommend to drop the test dosage? also i have been taking n2guard for almost 2 years straight. thank you guys again.

also i had a typo in the original post that i did not catch until now. i am 28 not 25. damn big fingers
 
Guys please watch the insulin talk.....bb240 can you post up some pics?
 
sorry about that, i was unaware that talk about it was not allowed here. i am unaware of how to upload photos to this thread. i will try to upload some to my profile on here
 
i am unsure i did this right. the first picture is from last year i was 245. the next 2 pics are from this winter after bulking up to 290 and the last two photos are current at 270
 
bb240 said:
i am unsure i did this right. the first picture is from last year i was 245. the next 2 pics are from this winter after bulking up to 290 and the last two photos are current at 270
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We have a new EF Heavyweight Champ...

~EZ
 
Some of the members here have had great success with running their test lower than tren. Some said using a moderate dose of test (enough to help libido and other essential test functions) keeps sides low and helps let the tren really shine and do its job. I haven't tried it but makes sense and definitely will give it a go

And holy hell, nice work on the physique. Can I have your genetics?
 
i don't know if i like the idea of dropping the test dose or not. if i were to do that i would raise the dosages of tren and mast. and i am a super heavy weight not a heavy weight lol. thank you everyone so far
 
bb240 said:
i don't know if i like the idea of dropping the test dose or not. if i were to do that i would raise the dosages of tren and mast. and i am a super heavy weight not a heavy weight lol. thank you everyone so far
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Basically I myself as well as many others have realized that high test with tren causes all the negative sides. So keeping test around 250-400 mg is about perfect sides wise. I'm running tren at 700 mg and test at 375 with mimimal sides. The only real side is the night sweats and I get those regardless of test dose. My bp is staying almost perfect, libido is sky high and I haven't used any caber at all. I'm more vascular then I've ever been, lean, and added new mass and strength. When I ran test at 800-1000 mg and tren at 400 the sides were awful in comparison. So with the low test I feel I could easily handle 800 mg tren or more, but a lower dose will do the job.
 
okay so what you are recommending would look like this?

1-8 test prop 100 mg eod, 400 mg per week
1-8 tren ace 200 mg eod, 800 mg per week
1-8 mast prop 200 mg eod, 800 mg per week

i think i may just give that a try. my training buddy was talking about doing something like this awhile back. i have not ran tren at 800 mg yet so hopefully i dont kill anybody. thank you for your insight.
 
I am debating doing this on my next cycle or not.. it makes all the sense in the world, but goes against every thing i have done so far in the world of aas. Maybe i will end up winning the Arnold next year because of it.. :D
 
steroids obviously have aided me a long my way. it would be foolish of me to refute that. but there is no steroid or drug that can replace the blood sweat and tears that have come with following my dream. and i am sure many of you feel the same way.

if i were to drop the test dosage down what would the lowest dose be that you would recommend? then i may add in primo to the stack at 300 mg every other day and keeping the tren and mast at 600 mg. something like this

1-8 test prop 25 mg eod, 100 mg per week
1-8 primo depot 300 mg eod, 1200 mg per week
1-8 tren ace 150 mg eod, 600 mg per week
1-8 mast prop 150 mg eod, 600 mg per week

thank you guys for the advice so far. it is nice getting different ideas from other people.
 
Hey.. i got a quick question for you. Basically goes like this.. Test Prop, Tren Ace, Mast Prop, and Primo usually come at 100 mg per ml. So you will be pinning 6.25 ml EoD. How many ml's do you inject at once and into which muscle? The most I have done is 3 ml into my glute and quads. I have heard mixed reviews on how much you can inject into one muscle at a time. just wondering what you do since obviously you are using a good amount and have had some perdy darn good success I'd say.
 
it equates to a lot of pinning but i have become pretty immune to it over the years. the addition of gh and insulin has really turned me into a pin cushion. i have injected up to 4 ml at once into my glutes but those were with longer esters then what i will be using. it also depends on what i am pinning. i pin the tren and mast separately into the delts because they are smooth and painless. i stick to glutes and quads with prop because sometimes it can be a bit painful. i never go above 2 ml per delt, and try not to go over 3 for glutes and quads.
 
pinning doesn't bother me that much either.. but 2-3 shots EoD would get redic. I'd feel like there wouldn't be anyplace left to put it.
 
bb240 said:
steroids obviously have aided me a long my way. it would be foolish of me to refute that. but there is no steroid or drug that can replace the blood sweat and tears that have come with following my dream. and i am sure many of you feel the same way.

if i were to drop the test dosage down what would the lowest dose be that you would recommend? then i may add in primo to the stack at 300 mg every other day and keeping the tren and mast at 600 mg. something like this

1-8 test prop 25 mg eod, 100 mg per week
1-8 primo depot 300 mg eod, 1200 mg per week
1-8 tren ace 150 mg eod, 600 mg per week
1-8 mast prop 150 mg eod, 600 mg per week

thank you guys for the advice so far. it is nice getting different ideas from other people.
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I feel that 250-300 mgs test is optimal for me when running a stack. I wouldn't bother ever going below 250. 250 mgs keeps me in the superhuman test range and I don't ever wanna be normal lol.
 
thank you guys for the help. decided to take your advice and go with the low dose of test and to bump the mast. will keep the tren dose the same. also decided to run primo. started yesterday this is what the cycle looks like.

1-8, 50 mg test prop eod, 200 mg/week
1-8, 150 mg tren ace eod, 600 mg/week
1-8, 200 mg mast e eod, 800 mg/week
1-8, 150 mg primo eod, 600 mg/week
 
bb240 said:
thank you guys for the help. decided to take your advice and go with the low dose of test and to bump the mast. will keep the tren dose the same. also decided to run primo. started yesterday this is what the cycle looks like.

1-8, 50 mg test prop eod, 200 mg/week
1-8, 150 mg tren ace eod, 600 mg/week
1-8, 200 mg mast e eod, 800 mg/week
1-8, 150 mg primo eod, 600 mg/week
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Not sure on how you calculated the math but your numbers are off bro. 50 eod = 175/ week
150 eod= 525/week
200 eod = 700/week
 
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