cutting estro fat

[DeepZenPill]

go_hard will agree Both estro fat and insulin fat suck balls, and I can't get rid of it naturally! I really like the sound of this combo though:

50mg Winny EOD
100mg Finna EOD

Then add what for blocking, L-dex or nolva?
What to add for accelerated fat burning? clen, dnp, t3, nyc, eca, yohimburn?
So many choices- need input!

You won't need anti-e's during this cycle because your estrogen will be very low once you're shutdown. Neither of these compounds aromatize into estrogen, and you won't have your natural test to convert to estrogen either.

I would suggest NYC or clen. Most guys prefer nyc, but I can't do it for more than a few days without feeling like crap. On the other hand I love clen. I wouldn't suggest t3 unless you really put in the research behind it and learn about the risks.

 

[PRAETORIAN]

RE: Bigrand

Usnic acid sucks, its too dangerous. If you want to be uncouppled, use DNP.

When was the last time you walked into GNC and bought a bottle of DNP? Give me a break usnic acid is too dangerous use DNP..give your head a shake and do some research for a chamge please!!

 

[Fukkenshredded]

You can do whatever you put your mind to. Who says you can't sprint and squat on the same day? Just dig a little deeper.

As far as fat being estrogenic vs. otherwise...well, from a clinical standpoint there is a difference between brown fat and white fat, and then more subtle differences between what promotes the storage.

But if the fire is hot enough, all wood burns. Bust your ass. Forget about analyzing the fat. Just fire up those sprints and squats, cut out the sugars, lift hard, shoot gear, and fix your fucking heads to stop talking about what can't be done and just go do what needs to be done.

 

[PRAETORIAN]

RE: Fukkenshredded!!

Great post bro...my sentiments exactly!
There are so many fat people out there just too busy to be thin!

Estro fat, white fat, brown fat..whatever...its fat...and it burns...bust your ass, diet hardcore, use non aromatizing compounds to maintain muscle tissue, and elevate youir metabolic rate, and you will get lean..all over..."get cooking or get out of the kitchen bro!"

Peace!

 

[macrophage69alpha]

while it is true that in a blazing inferno all fats burns (metaphorically speaking)

it is also true that altering certain metabolic inhibiting factors like the a2 adrenoceptor that the fat which is so afflicted (a2 rich) will burn at the same rate or faster as "normal" (high beta to alpha ratio) fat.

 

[chakarov]

you are battling estro fat...why would you take an aromatizing compound like prop..this is defeating the purpose...then try to eliminate aromatization with an anti e..?? no sense...replace the prop with tren 100mg eod, run the winny 50 mg ed...run an eca stack combined with yohimburn and usnic acid...see Dave palumbos site for usnic...also your diet is crucial as well!

Fasle. As long as the Test dose isn't too high, then Test Prop or any Test CAN help a man to burn fat. There have been NUMEROUS studies on men that were given an exogenous source oif Test and they all lost some fat. I believe that is was like 100mgs per week or a really low dose, but the point is Test CAN and WILL help you lose fat at a low dose. Aslo it has been proven that men with naturaly occuring high levels of Test have LESS bodyfat and MORE muscle mass than men with lower natural Test levels.

 

[OAKBOX]

while it is true that in a blazing inferno all fats burns (metaphorically speaking)

it is also true that altering certain metabolic inhibiting factors like the a2 adrenoceptor that the fat which is so afflicted (a2 rich) will burn at the same rate or faster as "normal" (high beta to alpha ratio) fat.

YEA!.... WHAT MACRO SIAD!

I Hate when a brother gets on the boards and talks like

"There are so many fat people out there just too busy to be thin!"

Not all fat burns at the same rate bro. I have a predisposition to hold on to fat around the chest, gut, and luv handles until I’m starving and the muscle is all burned up... I don't mean that I hold on to it for the first month of dieting. And I don't mean that it comes off after 2 or 3 months of diet and exercise. I mean that after 4 months of 1800cals per day and a 6 week Fina run, I still have a very sizable amount of gut and chest fat- probably a good 7 lbs. worth, while the rest of my body is looking awesome. The minute I go back to eating a normal 2800cal a day diet it all goes to my gut- I put every little bit back on. The funny thing is that, after i put on the fat, I have to eat really horrible and eat a lot after my body reaches is equilibrium weight in order to put on even more fat. So please don’t give me this fat crap...

My response to:
"You can do whatever you put your mind to. Who says you can't sprint and squat on the same day? Just dig a little deeper."

If you were digging deeper with your squats you would not be able to jog, much less do sprints on the same day.

 

[bigrand]

PRAETORIAN,

I have done LOTS of research. Ask all the gurus on the board whats more dangerous, UA or DNP, or YOU just do some research and find out for yourself. DNP IS safer, not to mention more effective. You cant just buy Usnic acid or sodium unisate in GNC either now can you......

 

[jboldman]

it is a myth that estro causes fat deposition. If your estro to test ratio gets out of whack, it will lead to female type bf distribution, aka thighs, hips, buttocks. As long as you are taking test, the estro levels will balance out unless you are taking huge amounts. Concentrate on diet and cardio, A yohimbe product as mentioned or oral yohimbine hcl(make you jittery) 20mins prioir to exercise on an empty stomach will be effective. 12% is a little high to actually start seeing definition, get your bf down.

jb

 

[PRAETORIAN]

RE: Oakbox

Oakbox what Macro said is true..however the question was not which type of fat burns fatser or at what rate...the question was what should i do to eliminate estro fat? If you would liketo use products that attack this type of fat predominantly go ahead...i never said not to...please read the post! Again, testosterone does not burn fat, either does winny , either does tren..however a high androgen base will create a fat burning environment ideally suited for eliminating a2 rich deposits...now an androgen either test or tren will raise blood levels however..tren will not raise estro levels nd there is no need for anti e's...as per jboldman concentrate on diet and cardio...yohimbine is great at assisting as well...1800 cal for 4 months..sheesh (not privy to your stats) seems a little low cal...i would suggest looking at your diet first..instead of resorting to what kind of drug will help...remember women diet as well and can get very low bf...and they have nat ocurring estro..so there is no reason you cant..

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oh by the way..bigrand...usnic acid see abv url...to purchase.legally!