Cutting down help

[Pukanui]

Hey guys. I have been lifting for about a year daily high weight for about a year. I have gotten pretty strong and don't look as soft anymore, but I think there is better ways to obtain lean muscle quicker or jut better eliminate body fat. I am 5'7 and 132lbs and 18. I wouldn't call myself fat but I am trying to become smaller or at least get ride of my extra fat (especially in my legs and mainly my butt). I am currently taking gnc multivitamin pack every morning along with shift, oxy elite pro, fiber, and Cla. (I am considering get hcg shots soon but haven't read enough about them). And I work out for anywhere between 1-3 hrs a day with my boyfriend who body builds. He has tried to help me, and in lifting i see a lot of results but I don't feel like his high protein diets work well with me, since I'm not really cutting weight or fat.
I am really looking for any advice anyone has on cutting fat or building lean muscle instead of bulk muscle. Any help would be great. I am also very new to this site so if I am leaving out any important information let me know and I will tell you whatever it is. I am just tired of working hard for what I see as little results, and feeling like there is a better solution. Thanks

 

[RachelM]

What are you eating? Do you know how many calories your consuming, and the breakdown of protein, carbs & fats?
Working out at 1-3 hours a day is a lot.. you need to eat a lot otherwise you're body goes into starvation mode and holds fat.
Can you post your diet?

 

[Pukanui]

Well I didn't start concentrating on what I've been eating till about 4 months ago. I usually have two eggs and a banana for breakfast. Than I have a snack of an apple and usually a special k bar or a protein bar about three hours after. I also drink a protein shake while at school(hyrowhey)I usually than Go to the gym and sometimes have a protein shake afterwards. I than have brown rice and chicken or steak after. And once a week follow that with a bowl of chex.

 

[RachelM]

I've just entered in what you've said into Fitday and the breakdown is:

Cals 1557 Fat 37.2 Carbs 170.5 Protein 132.5

It's not going to be accurate because I have guessed portion sizes... but it will give you a rough idea... this is with no chex and a cup of rice and a medium chicken breast and 2 x standard protein shakes, 2 eggs and a protein bar.

The website is fitday.com and it's free but if you have an iphone checkout what DMK is using because it looks great!

According to your figures your BMR is 1462 and if your working out between 1-3 hours 5 days means you should be eating to maintain at BMR x 1.725 = 2523..

By doing a guesstimate you are not eating enough.. and that why you are not seeing results..

There are some great resources here, read this http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/w...e-fitness-womens-forum-start-here-678961.html

 

[RachelM]

I am really looking for any advice anyone has on cutting fat or building lean muscle instead of bulk muscle

I just re-read your post...

Whats the difference???

 

[slat1]

Well I didn't start concentrating on what I've been eating till about 4 months ago. I usually have two eggs and a banana for breakfast. Than I have a snack of an apple and usually a special k bar or a protein bar about three hours after. I also drink a protein shake while at school(hyrowhey)I usually than Go to the gym and sometimes have a protein shake afterwards. I than have brown rice and chicken or steak after. And once a week follow that with a bowl of chex.

Protein bars are candy bars. Don't use them unless the only other choice is an actual candy bar.
Hydro Whey is awesome. It is best used PWO as it processes the fastest.
You may be too low on your fat intake. We would have to see exactly what you eat for a few days. The answer will be in that.
When women don't take in enough fat their bodies produce more estrogen. That means your body will do everything it can to hold onto fat on the thighs, butt, and lower abs.
Post up everything you eat for a few days. What, how much and when. Do the same with fluid intake. Everyone will be able to tweak your meal plan to get you the results you want!
Best of luck.

 

[RachelM]

Good advice Slat, the girls (and guys) here are great, and they have a huge knowledge base.. you'll do yourself a favour by listening to them!!

 

[Pukanui]

Thanks slat I will post what I have eaten after I have a few days. And I will try to up my protein my daily intake of food. And to answer your earlier question Rachel I have a tendency to gain muscle with extra fat instead of burning my fat and getting a nicely toned muscle. And I do agree that maybe it is what I am eating that's making my body produce estrogen and therefore I am keeping the fat. Once I post my diet for the next few days than I will know more about what it is that I need to do.

 

[slat1]

I think you will be excited with the results from posting your meal plan. The ladies on here can help you from making little mistakes that they have made. That means saving you time and money. It also means quicker results!

 

[dmk777]

I know it's boring but try swapping protein bars with a stick of celery ,
Also try using calorie counter or fit day to keep track of consumed foods it breaks down the macos too so you know exactly what to consume and what not too after a couple days of using it. It's available as an app for smart phones for free and also on pc you can start an account for free.

Good luck.


Donna

 

[Pukanui]

Okay here is what I've eaten since thursday:
Thursday I had two eggs and two egg whites scrambled with 1/4 of a basil leaf and a mushroom. Than an 3 hrs after I had a protein shake (hydro whey) and a half of stick of cucumber. Than about 2 hrs after I had chicken seasoned with garlic and some brown rice. I went to the gym and than had a protein shake. 2 hrs later I had a 6oz chicken breast and broccoli.
Friday: two eggs whole and a cup of cottage cheese. 3 hrs later I had 6 celery sticks two hrs later I had 8 oz steak with a zero calorie sobe water. I than went to the gym and came home and ate two whole eggs with a sliced piece of bacon and three red chilies. And some smoked salmon and two slices of palmer ham
Saturday: so far two eggs with three red chilies and 4 slices of thin cut bacon.
I've stayed off the protein bars so far because of what slat had said. And with all of these days I've had 3-4 oxy elite and shift and three pills of fiber and 2 cla and a multivitamin pack. This is daily. I included hrs and when I gymed just incase that will be something to change or keep. Thanks again

 

[Pukanui]

Ive also been reading up on lean gain diet and I'm wondering if maybe I am eating too little but too often. Also I am now down to 118 lbs this week

 

[RachelM]

I don't think so, what you've mentioned so far appears fine, not too often at all, you need to do from here is to start logging your eating so you know exactly how many calories, how much protein, fat and carbs you're getting.. do it for a week or so and you'll be suprised. I used fitday.com but Donna's one look fantastic.. do you have an iphone?

What you're down to 118 from 132 in a week? I'm a kilo girl and that's 6 plus kilos.. that's a lot, have you been drinking water?

I'm far from an expert, hopefully some of the other girls can give you their opinions

 

[Pukanui]

No that weight change could have had to do something with my period and the fact that I switched my birth control for less estrogen. I didn't realize it would change so much. And yeah I have an I phone I got the fit day app but I haven't logged anything yet. Thanks for all the help though. I am sure I will have more questions in a little but with my change in my bc and getting sick these last few days I decided it wouldn't be as accurate. I am doing a lot better so I will log and post. What is a good break down?

 

[HammersGirl]

Donna thanks so much for pointing me in the right direction ( aka Radar) lol he has helped me alot with my HGH questions and i think i will be starting next month.....i will keep u all posted for sure !!!!
thanks again!!!

 

[dmk777]

Anytime chic im happy you got in touch with Radar he's one the best guys around here.
Good luck and yeah I hope you start a log I would love to follow as its something I'm considering for the future and other ladies experiences are invaluable ,,

 

[HammersGirl]

oh yeah ill def start a log!!!!! thinking about starting as soon as my last month on birth control runs out ( next month) so ill keep you all posted! im going to start small< 1 iu 5 days on 2 days off . im totally ready and VERY excited!!!!

 

[dmk777]

That's great news another dedicated ladies for the ladies forum , we're building up quite an army here lol

 

[HammersGirl]

absolutely!!!

 

[Pukanui]

Hey guys I haven't been on in a while but I just ran out of my oxy elite and my shift and I'm wondering whats a good stack to take next