Holy shit Ultra, Fuck! Now I gotta spend the next 6 weeks figuring out what all that shit is ;-} SIMPLE! No brain surgeon here.... No seriously. I really, really, appreciate all the input especially all the time you invested into typing all that up, really alot if you type like me. I am sorry, and frustrated that i dont know enough about all the diffrent AS that are out there. My sources in the past have been limeted And I know no-one personally that can be any help at all in figuring it all out. So my research has been based on what I learn here and elsewhere like here. I am thinking now along the lines of the GAC tren "humatren" this stuff really caught my eye because its the only TA that is specifically for humans and is already converted to an injectable form. Should this be stacked with say winny and T3 and what would appropriate dosing be. (Same as converted Fina? I doubt it because I think this is probably higher % of actual TA in the mix.) This is my 2nd cycle and my first cutting cycle.... Spookaroo