Cut Cycle

[LftHndPwrHouse]

I got my Shit Today!!!!!!

So when do u guys toss in clen at the end of the cycle. Can you be on clen and clomid?

d-bol 40mg 1-3
Primotest 250mg 1-10
Winni 150mg 6-12
Clen ???????

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Hey Fella's i know someone knows.

I was thinking 6-12 two days on one day off

 

[wartime100]

I would up your test dosage to 500mg. Running 250mg is almost like running HRT. Run the winny @50mg ed. Yes you can take clen and clomid at the same time.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Im really not trying to get big. I am already 5"11 232 11%BF.

Think that much test will make me blow up.. I just want to cut up putting maybe 10lbs on..keeping everything clean, just want solid muscle. Trying not to bloat. Ill be taking .25-.5mg liquidex.

Looks like ill be taking clen two days on two days off after my first winni shot.

What do you think?

 

[big kev1]

the clen is fine the way you laid it out. but 250mgs of test per week is an absolute waste.

 

[TxRugby_8]

you will not bloat with 500mgs of test while taking .5mg of liquidex. that's what liquidex does.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

The question is. I have Primotest. What can i combine w/ it.. I do not think i will be able to get more Primotest.
Keep in mind trying to stay lean.

 

[ripper2]

IMO 250mg/wk of test is too low... i'd say 350mg/wk minimum if you're running it with something else. but since this is gonna be a cut cycle then you're gonna have a hard time putting on much muscle mass (IF ANY) if your diet is truely in order and you're only on 250mg/wk of test.

i'd run the winni at 50mg/ED

as for the clen... u can run it anytime (during cycle/after/both) but due to its long halflife, 2days on/1day off isn't really the best way to do it. a better way would be to do 2wks straight of clen and then do 2wks of either ECA or NYC and then repeat. you can do it like this the duration of your cycle and even post cycle if you feel u need to.

your liquidex dosage looks good

goodluck with it

 

[DaddyX]

i agree,250mgs of test sucks big balls. i would run test @500mgs a week (2 shots a wk.) and the dbol the first 4 weeks and winny ed @ 50mgs w/ the ldex as u stated already. bloat should be minimal and with a clean high calorie diet u shopuld still stay lean and get leaner if thats your goal. cardio would'nt hurt either. btw start the winny at week 7. goodluck with whatever homie

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

If i have the primotest. What other test goes good along w/ it.

I never had to mix like this before

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Prop...Cyp...or Sus.

 

[DeepZenPill]

This is ridiculous. The guy's trying to cut, and gain 10lbs of LBM. If he has his diet and training in order, that is most definitely attainable with 250mg of test and 40mg of dbol. 250mg of test a week is NOT HRT. That's what bodybuilders run as HRT because they can gain off of it. There's no reason to bump to 500mg of test a week if he can acheive his goals on 250mg. Everyone on this board has got to stop with the "more is better" advice all the time. If he were to raise the test at all, he would need no more than 350mg/week for this cycle.

Ok enough ranting.

LftHndPwrHouse, is this your first cycle? If it is, then you will probably be able to gain 10lbs with your dosages and proper diet. Throw in some cardio and you'll lean out as well. I would suggest running the clen for 2 weeks, then NYC/ECA for 2 weeks, then 2 weeks again if you have enough. Two days on, one day off will not be effective. Start with one tab a day and bump it up each day until you are as high as you can tolerate. Search for BigAndy69's Clen thread to get more info on cycling clen. I would also suggest that you run the clen alongside the clomid. It will keep your strength up and it is also anti-catabolic, which will help you retain your gains. If you have enough to run more than one 2 week cycle, run the rest during your cycle with the winny.

If you have doubts about your training and eating habits, you could bump your dosage to 350mg/week. But more gear should not be the replacement for hard work and food. You can use enanthate or cypionate with the primotest. If you're going to do that, make sure you get the gear BEFORE you start the cycle. If I'm not mistaken, primotest is just enanthate, so you shouldn't have any problems.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Thanks alot bro.

No this isnt my first cycle. But i know how my body reacts to test. I fucking blow up. I am bigger then i ever thought i would be. I was keeping this one light. Just to get a lil harder.

 

[DeepZenPill]

Well since you know you blow up on test, it's a good idea to keep your dosages low. You know your body best, good luck with the cycle.

 

[TxRugby_8]

If i have the primotest. What other test goes good along w/ it.

I never had to mix like this before

everykind of test goes with it because they're all the same, just differant esters.

 

[satchboogie]

This is ridiculous. The guy's trying to cut, and gain 10lbs of LBM. If he has his diet and training in order, that is most definitely attainable with 250mg of test and 40mg of dbol. 250mg of test a week is NOT HRT. That's what bodybuilders run as HRT because they can gain off of it. There's no reason to bump to 500mg of test a week if he can acheive his goals on 250mg. Everyone on this board has got to stop with the "more is better" advice all the time. If he were to raise the test at all, he would need no more than 350mg/week for this cycle.

sorry ZEN....

i must disagree.

for a guy his size, 250mg a week wont do much. with 500mg a week he's more likely to gain size while losing fat.

i'm surprised that with such opposition to 500mg a week you failed to mention that d-bol is not a cutting drug. did we forget water bloat that it brings?????????

 

[Big_Nims]

sorry ZEN....

i must disagree.

for a guy his size, 250mg a week wont do much. with 500mg a week he's more likely to gain size while losing fat.

i'm surprised that with such opposition to 500mg a week you failed to mention that d-bol is not a cutting drug. did we forget water bloat that it brings?????????
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Hmmm since when is dbol not a cutting drug? Cutting is a matter of diet, not drugs. Dbol is very anti-catabolic, and he already said that he would be running liquidex, so bloat wont even be an issue. I agree with Zen, 250mg's is plenty, you'll reach your goal of 10 pounds of clean muscle easily, just keep your diet in check, more is not better, stop listening to this nonsense, this is how people end up hurting themselves, or damaging themselves for life. More is not necessairly better unless it's gettin laid.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Thanks alot guys. I got to see both sides of the situation, it gave me much to think about.

I am going to start out at 250 give it a few weeks. See how things go. If i am unhappy, ill give it a lil bump up before i start the winni.


DeepZenPill-I really like that 2wk clen 2wk nyc 2wk clen. I am going to do that. I really think that will work out after reading up on it. Thanks a ton.

PwrHouse